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To: Hot Tabasco
Sorry bro but I don't share the same hatred of the blacks who became militant due to the racism they experienced while living in the south.....

So, I guess you "understand" BLM and where they are coming from. So in one sense Ferguson was justified as are the huge numbers of black on white crime that is not reported in the MSM. I hear similar kinds of justifications for attacks on Trump supporters because of the "hate speech" of Trump. All you are doing is legitimizing violence for past or perceived grievances. Our cities are tinder boxes as Baltimore proved. We can expect more of it as the black underclass grows.

And you also appear to be ignorant of the fact that Ali, after winning a gold medal in the 1960 Olympics still incurred the racism in the south by being denied service in a restaurant because he was black and subsequently threw his medal into the Ohio river.

I remember it. Kerry was supposed to have thrown his medals away as well. Maybe we will find out what happened to his medal when his extended family fights over his possessions. Of course, he was given a replacement gold medal at the 1996 Olympics. No way to prove the story.

He took a stand against the Vietnam war, stayed home and was banned from boxing for 4 years . I get it and I accept it.........He's more than paid for his decision both during and after his boxing career with all the humanitarian causes he has supported. A hell of a lot more than you or I combined have done.

He avoided the draft during wartime and joined the racist Nation of Islam to supply the excuse. His conviction was overturned. Ali has been lionized ever since and he became a wealthy man. So he used his name to support humanitarian causes. Jimmy Carter has helped build houses for the poor, but it doesn't excuse his piss poor performance as President.

I am 73 years old, one less than Ali. I lived in the same world he did. I am not here to speak ill of the dead, but the facts as presented by Bruno are true. You can't discuss Ali without mentioning some of these things that have faded from public memory. His plaudits are coming from around the globe. He was an international celebrity who had no problem bashing his country. For that he is loved. And no doubt, being a Muslim will help in that regard as everyone will point to the fact that Trump and his ilk are enemies of people like Ali.

So don't shove your moral superiority in my face simply because your are a Vietnam vet, because I served too......... And that's all I'm going to say about that.

You seem to miss the point, perhaps intentionally. I am a contemporary of Ali. I am putting his life in some context that may be lost on you and those far younger. Ali was a polarizing figure. Simple as that.

66 posted on 06/04/2016 2:06:08 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
So, I guess you "understand" BLM and where they are coming from.

Nope, you're trying to go off on a tangent now, BLM has no relevance to the racism that occurred in the mid 60's...........Nice try.

Just curious, when did you serve in Nam and were you drafted or did you enlist?

90 posted on 06/04/2016 3:57:14 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My only regret in life is being too young to get to know my grandfathers before they died)
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To: kabar
Maybe we will find out what happened to his medal... No way to prove the story.

Well here IS the story so it's now up to YOU to prove it wrong.........

Muhammad Ali’s Olympic Gold Medal Found In Ohio River

95 posted on 06/04/2016 5:24:55 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My only regret in life is being too young to get to know my grandfathers before they died)
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