Posted on 04/23/2016 8:39:45 PM PDT by pboyington
All your concerns are addressed here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYu6qhd88_M
I think it's already pretty well established that they were given extra help and extra chances.
And that right there is the problem. There is some kind of disconnect from reality. Young women these days -- who get scared if a man happens to be going to his car in the same parking garage as them -- truly believe that girls can "do anything a man can do, and do it better."
Yep, you’re right. It’s one thing to try to get the most out of everybody’s potential—that is great. Example: Women’s sports are leaps and bounds above where they used to be, but still, don’t tell me women can make it in the NFL. No way. No female baseball pitchers—they don’t have the right shoulder girdle for it, etc. etc. There are differences, nature has spoken. 100 meter dash—every think a woman will hold the world record?
Of course not. But we are led to swallow the fact that where speed and explosive strength count most—in hand to hand combat to defend our nation’s interests—that women should assume those sorts of combat roles, and in fact assume roles among the most elite of our war fighters.
This is beyond lunacy. This is resume building, both for the women involved and for the politicians who push this nonsense, and it will get us killed.
Is it an accident that every single leftist proposal seems to positively weaken the chances of our country surviving? Can’t be.
Yup. And I am sure they are under Obama orders not to release this info.
My son was a combat medic, two tours of Iraq with the 4th ID. He was a weight lifter and could pick up and carry a man in full combat gear. Can you do this?
I have absolutely no problem with a female fighter pilot, it does not take great strength to fly. I have a lot of problems with a female or male that does not have the upper body strength to carry out combat operations on the ground.
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When on patrol his unit would protect him and keep him safe. They knew if they were hurt he would be there for them and he was.
-—We’ve had 20 years of Hollywood grrrrr power propaganda films
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That’s just it isn’t it? Everyone is Lara Croft from Tomb Raider or the Hunger Games, or whatever.
When a woman and a man can compete weight by weight in the MMA, then we can talk about it.
Women would go ballistic to see a female in the octogon (and so would I), there would be protests all over, boycotting tv stations, boycotting states where it was sanctioned etc.
I have a grandson that wrestles now, he’s only in 6th grade, and they have girl wrestlers now too. He feels bad, he tells me “pa, I feel like an ass when I have to wrestle them”.
So, he just wrestles them enough to pin them, he doesn’t even try. And he says they cry afterwards, and then he feels bad. In a normal match he gives 110%, he works hard, and then for him to get paired up with a girl in this weight class is ridiculous, it insults him, and it must be devastating to the girls after a season of this.
In his district there are 2 girls in his weight division that he has to wrestle from 2 different schools, and the other kids harass HIM about it too. He’s in a tough spot, and that’s what this nonsense is doing to everyone, putting them in a tough spot.
When girls can start winning in MMA or at least at the state wrestling level (they have separate sexes for that) or Fargo (separate sexes there too), or even hockey or baseball we can revisit it.
Our military ain’t no sport and it shouldn’t be grounds for social experiments.
Yeah yeah, I get Israel has female combat soldiers, but they don’t invade, they are not a mobile infantry, they guard a border, where medi-vac is instantaneous and triage is 3 minutes away, or several other men are there to help if something goes wrong.
It’s crazy.
Even if you believe they found a unicorn that could manage this at 37, it still doesn’t erase the fundamental issues of women being significantly weaker than men on average. When you’re selecting for elites, this matters. It is a waste of everyone’s time and effort to be forcing through a population that you know from the outset has on average 2/3rds or less of the upper body strength. And this may be less important than the psychological/social issues surrounding having women in front line combat units.
Yep, probably exactly what happened.
My personal experience has been no matter if you were a graduate of Hudson High or any other ring knocker school, a zero is a damned zero. Ticket punchers have always been among the true leaders and Political Correctness has now assured their promotion.
We already did; we recently lost wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with our “new military”. When they raised the enlistment age to 39 in Guard units, the writing was on the wall: We didn’t have enough troops to fight these wars. I’d imagine it has only gotten worse in the ensuing years; while more people will turn to the military in this horrible economy, many are not the caliber you could send to these places.
As soon as the pile of body bags is high enough, there will be a reconsideration.
No surprise there; it happens in the private sector every day (with jobs and promotions for women and preferred ethnic minorities), and even earlier in colleges.
Ex-Marines in Congress say Navy chief destroying Corps by forcing integration of women
The Washington Times ^ | January 12, 2016 | Rowan Scarborough
Posted on January 12, 2016 9:36:05 PM EST by jazusamo
Former Marines in Congress, including a liberal Democrat, are on the offensive against Navy Secretary’s Ray Mabus’ sweeping edicts to the Corps on women in combat.
Rep. Duncan Hunter, a former Marine officer in Afghanistan and Iraq, accused Mr. Mabus on Tuesday of “destroying the martial fabric of the Marine Corps.”
Smokescreen on the Potomac: Pentagon and Congress deliberately ignoring $36 million USMC study
US Defense Watch ^ | April 19, 2016 | Ray Starmann
Posted on April 20, 2016 2:35:27 AM EDT by pboyington
The United States of America is in mortal jeopardy and most Americans, tucked away in their beds tonight don’t even understand why or who is responsible for their peril.
Those responsible are not from North Korea, China, Iran, Russia or ISIS. They are Department of Defense bureaucrats, members of Congress and senior leaders in the US military.
The US military is committing suicide. We are in the first stages of beginning a process that is going to decimate the speed, lethality and combat power of the Marines and the US Army combat arms and special operations. The US military is doing this because of policies directed by the White House and authorized by willing lackeys in the Pentagon and in Congress.
A Congress short on military veterans and long on wind and incompetence said nothing as the April 1, 2016, deadline passed for them to review Secretary of Defense Ash Carter’s authorization which allows women to serve in direct ground combat units.
Yet, Congress had a plethora of information presented to them which clearly indicated that women cannot function and survive in US Army and US Marine Corps combat arms and special operations units; aka, infantry, armor, armored cavalry, artillery, the Marine Raiders, NAVY SEALs, Delta Force, the Rangers and the Green Berets............
.......Included in the vast array of information available to the Pentagon and the Congress was the $36 million dollar, 9 month long Ground Combat Element Integrated Task Force (GCEITF) Study the Marines conducted in 2014 that pitted all male units against coed units in a myriad of combat tasks that simulated what one faces in the combat arms and special ops.
The study was monitored by neutral researchers from the University of Pittsburgh.
Except for Senator John MCCAIN and Congressman DUNCAN HUNTER, who felt the Pentagon was deliberately dodging the results of the study, not one member of Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of the Navy, the Secretary of the Army, the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the former US Army Chief of Staff and the current US Army Chief of Staff, completely and unequivocally wanted nothing to do with the study and ensured that it was ignored.
In fairness to General Joe Dunford, the current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as Commandant of of the Marine Corps, he did request a waiver that would have stopped women from being included in the combat arms and special operations units of the Marines.
Dunford’s waiver wasn’t even considered by Secretary of the Navy, Ray Mabus. Since then, Dunford has hunkered down in his bunker, watching the implosion of the Marine Corps with field glasses................
President Trump or Cruz needs to fire every three and four star general at 1pm, Jan 20, 2017. Then by 1:15, the Ranger School leadership that has lied all through this should be gone too. Each and every one of these officers has put career over country for Obama in this and every other military issue. They are disgusting scum.
I have never said this before but the senior ranks of the Army is populated by liars.
“They can’t do it. I’ve had the honor of working with Rangers (not in a military capacity), and they were adamant that no female could have legitimately passed.
I think it’s already pretty well established that they were given extra help and extra chances. “
My son is a Ranger. He told me a few years ago that as part of the Army’s trials at seeing if a woman could pass Ranger school they had a female Olympic athlete give it a try. She washed out In days and said “no woman should ever be subjected to this”. Of course, she got no special treatment when that happened.
“I have absolutely no problem with a female fighter pilot, it does not take great strength to fly”
Actually, it takes a lot of upper-body strength to fly the jet while under high-G conditions. Try and move and twist your body when flying under 9-G’s. . .difficult at best.
Jeannie Flynn, the first female that flew fighters, was given extra chances when learning to fly the F-15E. De-briefs after a flight are brutal and honest and tough. She cried during debriefs and was passed. . .imagine a guy crying during de-briefs. . .just imagine how fast that guy would be thrown out of the program.
Additionally, when we received word she was coming to our wing we were told she WILL become MR on time, be upgraded to 2-ship and 4-ship flight lead on time, and instructor on time, too. . .regardless of skills.
Aggression is necessary in combat. Aggression, not meanness.
Women can be mean but natural aggression is vital and in women it is lacking.
Testosterone equals aggression. Male testosterone generates that aggressive attitude.
The oft-mocked chest-thumping testosterone aggression comes natural in men, not women, and natural aggression is necessary to be a warrior.
Women in warrior roles try to act aggressive, but that is what it is, an act.
Warrior behavior is borne of natural male aggression, not meanness. Natural male aggression is recognized as essential in a warrior. . .even in Hollywood: Every time Hollywood has some female in a “warrior” role they are depicted as manly, or we see the females rolling their eyes as they tell the guys to control their testosterone-driven behavior.
The whole thing is utterly corrupt. Turns the whole thing into one big lie, from top to bottom. Honor? Expendable. Readiness? Expendable.
Lives? Most definitely expendable.
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