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To: Bob434

> As for The Bellei case, it was already explained earlier- (and also been explained by springfield reformer in those threads i pointed to as well) as were other cases that were based on lax interpretations of of the court of a citizen’s ‘intent to expatriate’- which incidentally laws have since been made much harder for a court to assign ‘intent to expatriate’

Bellei was not about expatriation, he had no desire to expatriate. He did not desire to lose citizenship yet he did because he did not comply with the terms of naturalization statute.


75 posted on 04/08/2016 9:20:15 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: Ray76

[[He did not desire to lose citizenship yet he did because he did not comply with the terms of naturalization statute.]]

You are not even bothering to read anything I’ve written are you?

This is the last time- I really am burned out on this issue because i keep saying the same answers over and over, and people just ignore them but they are relevant ot the issue being discussed- there is no ‘naturalization statute’ for natural born citizens- there is a statute that creates extra burden for foreign born Natural Born Citizens, as is the congress’s right to define- but this statute does NOT confer citizenship on someone who is already a citizen- Bellei lost his citizenship because he did not meet them ore stringent requirements of off-soil born natur4al born citizenship- The courts interpreted that as ‘intent to expatriate’ and they stripped him of his citizenship- wrongly- Courts have since made it much harder for courts to ‘determine intent to expatriate’, and it’s now almost required that a person must formally renounce their citizenship, and declare allegiance to another country before the court will declare them a non citizen (except in cases of proven treason- the courts interpret that as voluntary expatriation without a formal process of expatriation needed)

There is no naturalization statute- there is only a statute for non citizens that declares they must be naturalized by a process- and there especially is no naturalization statute for NBC children born off-soil


76 posted on 04/08/2016 9:36:11 PM PDT by Bob434
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