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To: Bob434

Well I hope you feel better.

Conflating “at” with “by” is a source of confusion and all too common.

“at” indicates a point in time

“by” indicates a causative agent

A person can be a citizen at birth either by statute or by nature.

Article II does not require “citizen at birth” - it requires “natural born citizen”.


62 posted on 04/08/2016 11:15:37 AM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: Ray76

[[Well I hope you feel better.]]

Meh- it’s ongoing- 2 decades now- they say fibromylagia- possibly chronic fatigue, but i don’t have any of the trigger points or tender points needed for a ‘proper diagnosis’ of either- I personally think it’s some kind of glycogen issue where body doesn’t convert food, sugars into energy- but I don’t know- neither do docs-

[[it requires “natural born citizen”.]]

Which is what a citizen at birth is- The only one who isn’t is a person who acquires citizenship by way of process after birth- one who doesn’t go through the process can not be a citizen as shown in previous post- one who doesn’t need to go through a process is an NBC- as mentioned-

at birth also indicates a causative agent- the act of being born to a us citizen makes that person, at birth, a us citizen - The simple act of being born ‘to a us citizen’ is what confers NBC status- not a process of naturalization

[[it requires “natural born citizen”.]]

Which, since it was not defined by constitution, was left up to the congress to define what ‘isn’t NBC’ in order to establish what ‘is NBC’

There are good arguments on both sides- but as it stands now, a child born off soil to a us citizen is a NBC themselves with all the rights an privileges of their parent and NBC citizenship with whom they share their allegiance until 18 years of age-


64 posted on 04/08/2016 11:48:26 AM PDT by Bob434
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