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Trump And Sanders Are Spreading Bull About China
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 03/17/2016 | John Merline

Posted on 03/18/2016 4:29:31 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer

Leading GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump has made it clear that, when it comes to China, he’s very much in sync with socialist Democrat Bernie Sanders. [snip]

But no matter, since they’re both wrong, as an in-depth piece in the New Yorker makes pretty clear.

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


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To: IBD editorial writer
Your a lying snake peddling this Uniparty cheap labor propaganda .
You are the enemy peddling crony capitalism and open borders.

Go to hell.

We will defeat you , traitorous scum !

41 posted on 03/18/2016 6:09:44 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: PUGACHEV
FACT- Job prospects are awful for Chinese youths. China's urbanization strategy has resulted in oversupply of labor. Average Chinese college grad earns pennies more than a non-grad. Housing is so expensive, people have three hour commutes to the prime cities. If you move in China, jobs are harder to fine as the government barely acknowledges your existence.

Meanwhile back in the US, jobs have become so technical that a HS grad doesn't qualify for your average manufacturing job (read the article posted). What is the government's response? You would think loans and support for technical schools- not everyone is college material. But the government's response is college education for everyone under the umbrella of jobs and opportunity but in reality fed loan program is to prop up bloated University budgets. The result is huge college loan debt for worthless social science majors which US Universities are cranking out to support inflated budgets.

To make matters worse, the government counts these majors as STEM grads (really, the government does this) and publishes that STEM majors are having a hard time finding jobs in their fields. THE SOLUTION, blame trade!!!!

42 posted on 03/18/2016 6:18:03 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: central_va

Don’tcha just love free trade? The job that employed your neighbor with 4 kids who attends church with you and graduated from the same college you did...now employs some Asian peasant with one spoiled boy in a Communist dictatorship and with the difference in wages going to pay for Oscar Onepercenter’s second yacht.


43 posted on 03/18/2016 6:20:32 AM PDT by Laser_Ray
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To: 11th Commandment
Your post is more sensible than 90% of FR's commentary on the subject.

The Information Revolution has left even more people behind than the Industrial Revolution. Google is the greatest job-killer in American history - replacing millions of white collar workers who used to be paid to sit around and "know stuff." As companies completed their process automation in the 2000's, reusable software libraries replaced the high-wage knowledge workers that had helped build them at an even faster rate.

Beyond that, more jobs have been destroyed by labor unions, the EPA, and the IRS than by all the trade deals ever signed.

Our problems are partially self-inflicted. Perhaps we will break through to a time when few people have to work at all, and new machines will produce goods and services for most people virtually free. But I think te world has reached the end of the Era of Mass Employment, and the adjustment ahead will be even more difficult for heavily populated countries like China and India than for us. That's why the elites want to kill off 90% of us, somehow.

44 posted on 03/18/2016 6:34:41 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: PIF

I agree. Take the sorry education system, lack of motivation, expected handouts from $100 plus tennis shoes to I phones, and no phys ed. These kids plus far to many adults are morbidly obese. Our education system was once the envy of the world. Both China and Japan make us look bad. I sat in an ER last month and was surrounded by 300-450 pounders. UNREAL.


45 posted on 03/18/2016 7:23:04 AM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Lumper20

China and Japan are well up on top of the list from the US - which ranks somewhere around 35th in math & science - if reading/writing English were measured worldwide, the US would likely still come in at the bottom middle - as for history - the US is likely at the very bottom.

Russians learns English/ Chinese learn English ... the US learns Spanish ... do we need to say more?


46 posted on 03/18/2016 7:28:00 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Lumper20

For Christians it is a symbol of the Holy Spirit and for Americans it is the torch for Freedom (Statue of Liberty flame).

We need a spiritual revival and repentance of the abominations which God hates especially pre-born genocide which He does not forgive on the national level. Delaying the wrath is the only option. Consequences are invasion and conquest. Thing is, it’s a worldwide practice. Only 5 or 6 nations are smart enough to make it totally illegal.


47 posted on 03/18/2016 7:39:54 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: 11th Commandment
Unfortunately, comments will come in from those who won't read the article and immediately defend Trump and by default Sanders.

You are so right.

CONDEMNATION BEFORE INVESTIGATION IS THE HEIGHT OF IGNORANCE.

Jesus Christ: You can't impeach Him and He ain't gonna resign.



48 posted on 03/18/2016 10:09:02 AM PDT by rdb3 (You know, I've never seen a hearse with a U-Hall trailer hitched to it. . .)
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To: IBD editorial writer

Good article, notwithstanding the derision of the now-protectionist denizens of FreeRepublic, who used to support a true free-market economy.

China is in the process of collapsing economically, no matter what we do. What we need is to be ready for a depression in China — it’s too big to bail out, even for a mainstream cronyist. (Plus, a depression in China is dangerous because it’s so politically unstable.)


49 posted on 03/18/2016 10:23:33 AM PDT by Persephone Kore
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To: PIF
No you are the one who can't comprehend. We HAVE an educated work force now. We don't need any incompetent non- English speaking, fake resume, no real experience, people whatsoever.

Here's another news bulletin for you. A piece of paper does not an educated person make. So you can quit being so impressed with yourself. Second, while the west was busy inventing every bit of technology these H1B workers are being brought in for they were busy wiping their ass with their bare hands.

Trump is wrong with his protectionist tariff ideas but it simply won't matter because we will no have a country to protect if we don't stop the hordes of foreigners coming into the US both legally and illegally.

rant off

50 posted on 03/18/2016 10:24:00 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

You are so blind ... you ‘rant’ just shows that you do not understand just how bad the US education system really is and seem to be a product of same. Nor do you seem to understand the difference between being technically competent and being educated.

The US is filled with incompetent non- English and English speaking, fake resume, no real experience, people born in the US already - so what is your point?

The matter of illegals is another topic.


51 posted on 03/18/2016 10:32:48 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: huldah1776

The cross is the symbol for Christians. Jesus died on it to save us from our sins. Please do not push the Pentecostal torch sign as a replacement for the cross.


52 posted on 03/18/2016 10:56:48 AM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: PIF
Only then can the US achieve a workforce educated enough to compete without massive importation of H1Bs from other countries.

The H-1B is a wage lowering scheme and nothing else. There are plenty of IT workers in the USA so don't buy the anti American propaganda.

53 posted on 03/18/2016 12:45:39 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

You have a real odd understanding of what anti-American propaganda actually is - and if you still cannot understand what I’m saying - as is apparent - except to dismiss it so brusquely then you deserve what you get & will reap what you sow.

Have a nice life somewhere ...


54 posted on 03/18/2016 12:59:02 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Quit spreading the H-1B visa lie.


55 posted on 03/18/2016 1:39:45 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

You know you are so ignorant that words fail.


56 posted on 03/18/2016 1:42:34 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

You honesty believe that if the H-1B quotas were reduced to zero Americans couldn’t fill positions available? Do you rally believe that?


57 posted on 03/18/2016 1:47:59 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I never said that (”if the H-1B quotas were reduced to zero Americans couldn’t fill positions available?”) - you only imagined that’s what I said - I said the opposite - how many times do I have to repeat myself?


58 posted on 03/18/2016 1:55:05 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Lumper20

Actually the original “logo” was the fish. The cross is fine, too, but I like the empty tomb. Hard to make a logo from that though. I like the flame/dove since we are in the era of witnessing through the power of the Spirit. Can’t wait till the Messiah rules. I wonder what His crest will look like. Do you think it will have a rod of iron incorporated in it?


59 posted on 03/18/2016 2:19:16 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: huldah1776

The first step is to accept the Lord Jesus as one’s Lord and Savior and to ask forgiveness for one’s sin’s. In other words come to Jesus. Go to Romans 8:28-” since God is for us who can be against us.” I believe the real work for me is to be a better Christian each day.


60 posted on 03/18/2016 3:57:01 PM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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