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Trump, the Greatest Threat to the Establishment since JFK
US Defense Watch ^ | February 28, 2016 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 02/28/2016 7:19:08 PM PST by pboyington

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To: Washi

In case you were asleep, we’ve already lost the Constitution, so you no longer need to fear that.

At this point all that’s left is trying to PREVENT this country from acquiring 30 MILLION new Democrat voters. The GOPe and the Democrats COULD CARE LESS about preventing this.

Once that problem is dispatched, we can, hopefully, start trying to get back to Constitutional principles. It is FUTILE to think that all the problems can be solved all at once.


41 posted on 02/28/2016 8:16:02 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Patriot Babe

Kennedy was a big proponent of the CIA and was using them in Cuba and Southeast Asia. Too much so since he left them with tasks better suited to the military.

He couldn’t have been farther from the nonsense claims in this article.


42 posted on 02/28/2016 8:17:37 PM PST by Pelham (Marco Rubio (R-Amnesty). the GOP elite's cabana boy.)
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To: Patriot Babe
Who knows, it would not surprise me since Daddy Bush was the head of the CIA.

Not until 1976.

43 posted on 02/28/2016 8:18:36 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Patriot Babe

44 posted on 02/28/2016 8:18:46 PM PST by Bratch
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To: bushwon
Not sure why you would say that...His popularity is surging because he IS a THREAT to the ESTABLISHMENT.

Yeah, he's not in the establishment's pocket, like Rubio.

He holds no allegiance to anyone, including to the Constitution.

Trump is in it for Trump.

He'll say what he needs to say to win, then do what he wants.

The fact that his supporters so easily dismiss his 60 years of liberalism and seize on his few months of conservative platitudes scares the hell out of me.

45 posted on 02/28/2016 8:19:30 PM PST by Washi (Don't blame me. I voted for the conservative.)
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To: ground_fog

It is hard to deal with that a nobody shot JFK instead of Castro or the Mafia. The Mafia theory does sound the best among the stories I don’t believe.


46 posted on 02/28/2016 8:19:46 PM PST by Stepan12
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To: pboyington
It is one thing to try to make Donald Trump into something he is not but it takes real chutzpah to try to make Donald Trump into something that John F. Kennedy was not.


47 posted on 02/28/2016 8:19:55 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: JPJones

You are correct.

I talk to complete strangers and always present the conservative argument to them in a way that they can understand which is on a personal level. They can’t see the big picture but they can see the personal side of the picture. It can and must be done on a non confrontational, appealing way.


48 posted on 02/28/2016 8:22:23 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: pboyington

Oh spare me. JFK was about as much threat to the establishment as I am.


49 posted on 02/28/2016 8:22:29 PM PST by ModelBreaker (')
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To: Patriot Babe
I agree Donald can’t do this all alone. It is “WE” the people who need to start voting in Constitutionalist

You may not be aware of this, but there is a Constitutionalist already in this race.

50 posted on 02/28/2016 8:22:44 PM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Stepan12
JFK? JFK stole the election from Richard Nixon.

No, not JFK. It was the Democrat machine in Cook County. I believe to this day JFK was an 'honorable' man.

Were he to run today, in the climate we now have, he would be the 'Trump'.

51 posted on 02/28/2016 8:24:06 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: pboyington

I was a freshman in high school when JFK was shot. I’ve always looked back on that horrible day as the day America lost her innocence and everything changed for the worse. Our great hope was slaughtered.
BTW my parents fought about who to vote for. My father was mad at my mother for voting for “that Catholic”.


52 posted on 02/28/2016 8:26:06 PM PST by tinamina
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To: pboyington
America once had a president who sought peace, but with a firm hand; a president who vowed to crush the Federal Reserve, who warned the nation about secret societies, who wanted to shut down the military-industrial complex and the CIA itself; a young president who wanted nothing to do with the killing fields of Southeast Asia.

At least four lies in the set-up. No need to read any further:

JFK had no intention of "shutting down the military industrial complex." He campaigned on a claim that more, NOT less, defense spending was needed, and that there was a "missile gap" between the US and Russia which he intended to close.

JFK didn't turn on the CIA until after the Bay of Pigs fiasco -- which was largely his fault. The truth is that he and his brother were obsessed with spy operations, and thought they could accomplish anything. He got a very sobering lesson in Cuba.

Wanted nothing to do with the killing fields of Southeast Asia? Please be serious. JFK made further commitments in Vietnam despite an explicit warning by Eisenhower not to do so.

Warned against "Secret Societies?" The Societies he was talking about were communist societies, and the speech is about the distinction between open societies like ours and totalitarian states. It didn't have anything to do with Trilateralists, Illuminati, Bilderbergers, or any other kookberger nonsense.

Please buy a clue.

53 posted on 02/28/2016 8:26:24 PM PST by FredZarguna (Billy was a simple country boy. You might say a cockeyed optimist...)
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To: Pelham
Dereliction of Duty

Might just be the best book ever written about the political and Pentagon failures that led to disaster in Vietnam.

54 posted on 02/28/2016 8:29:31 PM PST by FredZarguna (Billy was a simple country boy. You might say a cockeyed optimist...)
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To: Washi

What do you think of the two ineligible candidates running and their respect for the Constitution.


55 posted on 02/28/2016 8:30:20 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: BenLurkin

He was an old line pro American Democrat, the last of whom were Joe Lieberman and Sam Nunn, not that I’d have voted for them either. I guess Reagan was a RINO to the Trump people.


56 posted on 02/28/2016 8:32:34 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: Patriot Babe

George HW wasn’t head of CIA until 1976


57 posted on 02/28/2016 8:33:29 PM PST by tinamina
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To: nathanbedford
It is one thing to try to make Donald Trump into something he is not but it takes real chutzpah to try to make Donald Trump into something that John F. Kennedy was not.

Succint, lucid, elegant.

The first line of the article is an exemplar of mendacity that would shame even a Clinton.

58 posted on 02/28/2016 8:33:32 PM PST by FredZarguna (Billy was a simple country boy. You might say a cockeyed optimist...)
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To: Pelham

Johnson must have left the CIA boys off-leash. My Dad talked about a spook admirng a Type 56 Chinese carbine he took from a VC and wanted to trade his issue Brwning HiPower. Since the VC had learned to count to 7 (his Colt) he made the trade and surprised the other sde the next trip out. The Brownings in my gun safe now.
He said he never figured what the agency was doing, they just came and went.


59 posted on 02/28/2016 8:45:31 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: pboyington

Bkmk


60 posted on 02/28/2016 8:46:35 PM PST by uncitizen (Investigate Scaliagate!)
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