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Trump crosses the line
Flopping Aces ^ | 02-14-16 | DrJohn

Posted on 02/15/2016 11:04:32 AM PST by Starman417

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I am sick of Donald Trump. Utterly sick of him. I'm sick of his bullying, I'm sick of his whining, I'm sick of his profanity and I'm sick of his constant repetition.

Now I'm sick of his lying too.

Last night he blamed 9-11 on George W. Bush and he came right out and said that Bush lied the US into the war in Iraq. I think this time he has burned one too many bridges.

Bill Kristol:

Asked to defend his 2008 comment that George W. Bush should have been impeached, Donald Trump said: "They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none, and they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction."

Interviewers should press Trump on this: What evidence does Trump have that George W. Bush and his top advisers knowingly lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? How many other government officials does Trump believe were in on the deception? What does Trump believe would have been the point of such a lie, since the truth would soon come out?

Watch this exchange. Bush does not interrupt Trump but Trump can't shut up.

https://youtu.be/I8cxTaaNZrw

BTW, Donald, the official tome on Iraq, the Silbermann-Robb report, says Bush did not lie.

"Even people at the highest level of the Iraqi regime believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction," Silberman explains. "Saddam was running a bluff. He was bluffing his own people, and he was bluffing Iran. It would have been impossible for any intelligence agency in the world … to have determined that Saddam had destroyed his weapons of mass destruction."

Even if the intelligence agencies had performed flawlessly, they would therefore have found themselves advising the president of grave dangers. "A first-class [intelligence] opinion would have said, 'We [the intelligence agencies] know Saddam once had weapons of mass destruction, we know that he proved capable of using them, and we have no evidence that he has destroyed them. Although we cannot prove that Saddam still has weapons of mass destruction, we think it highly likely that he has.'"

Silberman recently addressed the constant lying from the left (and from Trump):
"It is astonishing to see the 'Bush lied' allegation evolve from antiwar slogan to journalistic fact."
He added "as I recall, no one in Washington political circles offered significant disagreement with the intelligence community before the invasion. The National Intelligence Estimate was persuasive - to the president, to Congress and to the media."

Though it's politically convenient to constantly repeat the lie that Bush lied, no one from the left really ever bothers to explain why Bush would lie, as Kristol asked above. Trump sure as hell doesn't offer an explanation.

Never mind the fact that WMD's were found all over Iraq. I suspect there were far more found than we are left to know. It would be kept quiet so as not to tip off Al Qaeda and ISIS to its existence.

Never mind that a large part of the reason for the Iraq war was the same as the excuses for the war on Libya:

The Bush administration made the argument that in the post-9/11 climate there should be a belated reckoning with Saddam Hussein. He had continued to sponsor terrorism, had over the years invaded or attacked four of his neighbors, and had killed tens of thousands of his own people. He was surely more a threat to the region and to his own people than either Bashar Assad or Moammar Qaddafi was eight years later.
Trump compensates for his lies with increased volume. When Jeb Bush chipped Trump for his reality show history, Trump went  nuts:
While Donald Trump was building a reality TV show, my brother was building a security apparatus to keep us safe. And I'm proud of what he did."

"The World Trade Center came down during your brother's reign," Trump reminded Bush.

As if that wasn't enough, Trump kept stabbing:
"The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George Bush," Trump said to a strong reaction from the audience. "That's not keeping us safe."
Again- blaming George Bush for 9-11. It's something I found and do find detestable for a self-proclaimed conservative. This is the mindless throw-away line of a liberal. It was following 9-11 that Bush built the security structure which kept the US safe since and which Obama has enjoyed and in some ways expanded upon. Trump has frequently accused Bush of knowing that 9-11 was coming and ignored the warnings. About that, Politifact says:

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


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KEYWORDS: 911; bush; slimer; trump
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To: Starman417
I am sick of Donald Trump. Utterly sick of him. I'm sick of his bullying, I'm sick of his whining, I'm sick of his profanity and I'm sick of his constant repetition. Now I'm sick of his lying too.

But, but, THE WALL!! And THE ANGER!! We want somebody who's ANGRY!!!!!! It doesn't matter what he says or does or believes or if he shoots somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue!! He's ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

21 posted on 02/15/2016 11:13:05 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: THE_RAIDER
Donald "Moore" Chump has finally showed his true colors to the Trumpbots out there.

Actually I think it is more a case you you showing your a GOPe stooge.
22 posted on 02/15/2016 11:13:48 AM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - DC Values)
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To: All

If Trump or Cruz is elected president which one do you think would be better at exposing all of the past corruption that has happened before they came into office?


23 posted on 02/15/2016 11:15:09 AM PST by fulltlt
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To: CincyRichieRich

There’s literally nothing that DJT could say or do that will cause him to lose his diehard supporters. Nothing. No truer words have been spoken by him than that “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue...” bit a few weeks ago.


24 posted on 02/15/2016 11:15:18 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: Starman417
I am sick of Donald Trump bullying

Sounds like this was written in Berkeley CA.

25 posted on 02/15/2016 11:17:38 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: CincyRichieRich
All stuff making fun of the author; not one substantive rebuttal of the fact that Trump did blame Bush,

Who gives a crap? You can worship the bush's all you want. But the bottom line is, bush gave us obumber.
26 posted on 02/15/2016 11:18:28 AM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - DC Values)
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To: Starman417

Of course he has...Pro-lifers! Not a peep on his website. Not an issue so no policy. Nothing in writing = just a bunch of hot air.


27 posted on 02/15/2016 11:18:42 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Starman417

Jebbie should shutup about brother Geo keeping America safe, when the attack happened on Geo’s watch!! How stupid is Jebbie! Of course many opportunities to get OBL occurred before Geo, but you cannot object to the fact that the towers came down under Geo’s watch. So we were not THAT safe were we Jebbie.


28 posted on 02/15/2016 11:18:54 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Starman417
I am sick of Donald Trump Ted Cruz. Utterly sick of him. I'm sick of his bullying, I'm sick of his whining, I'm sick of his profanity and I'm sick of his constant repetition. Now I'm sick of his lying too.

Fixed it. It didn't make sense before.

29 posted on 02/15/2016 11:19:58 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: changeitback440

We know Trump is sick of Republicans. He’s still a covert Democrat.


30 posted on 02/15/2016 11:20:08 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: JoSixChip

No I am a constitutional conservative who sees thru the BS of The Donald. My vote isn’t for sale by the Kardashian Candidate who is a liberal trying to act conservative.


31 posted on 02/15/2016 11:20:40 AM PST by THE_RAIDER
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To: Cboldt

That was Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show. Dr. John was in the right place, but at the wrong time.


32 posted on 02/15/2016 11:21:09 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Starman417

I hope that when the dust settles, if Trump is not the nominee, Republicans are able to artfully defend the legacy of G. W. Bush’s war record throughout the whole general campaign, AGAIN, and that it doesn’t result in another year of Marxist dems in control of the White House, AGAIN. Because you can rest assured after all of this hand-wringing against Trump, whoever the libs put up is going to hammer our nominee into the ground on this issue now that we ourselves have decided to run to the defense of Jeb Bush over the Iraq War.

God help us.


33 posted on 02/15/2016 11:21:51 AM PST by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: elhombrelibre


34 posted on 02/15/2016 11:21:54 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Starman417
As long as Trump and the media piggy back each other expect more of his mud slinging nastiness.....he cannot control himself....he has never learned the skill set other successful narcissists have to handle the inner turmoil and buttons pushed.
35 posted on 02/15/2016 11:22:00 AM PST by caww
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To: Boogieman
That was Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show. Dr. John was in the right place, but at the wrong time.

But Dr Hook and the Medicine Show were on the cover of The Rolling Stone.

36 posted on 02/15/2016 11:22:11 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Starman417

Waaaa! Teacher Trump was mean to Dubya. Waaaaa!


37 posted on 02/15/2016 11:22:36 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Starman417

Neo_Cons are really, really mad. Don’t question the Ruling Class sending Working Class boys off to die in stupid wars. Don’t you dare.


38 posted on 02/15/2016 11:23:02 AM PST by TTFlyer
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To: Cboldt; All

I’m glad this is a blog rather than a legit news source. I’ve been disappointed, disillusioned and even ANGRY at Trump, but, who else do we have. Cruz is a lying, sleazy, scumbag hypocrite. Carson doesn’t have a chance. Jeb & Kasich are eat up with the Establishment. Rubio makes me nervous. ALSO..... like Rush said today: Trump can turn the Electoral Map on it’s head when he’s nominated. He’ll put NY, PA, OH & FL in play and the Dems will crap down both legs. (Last sentence said by me; not Rush.)


39 posted on 02/15/2016 11:24:12 AM PST by Din Maker
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To: MarvinStinson

Do you think for a minute that any of the Code Pink idiots would vote for Trump over Hillary?????

That’s laughable....


40 posted on 02/15/2016 11:24:24 AM PST by JBW1949
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