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To: babble-on
The right of center half of the US electorate has a big problem here. 2/3 of them do not like Trump but cannot decide on one champion to support. 1/3 love Trump, and will be very very angry if he is not the nominee, to the point of splitting the party in twain.

Unfortunately true. You've got a plurality of Trump supporters, but a lot of folks who won't vote for him if he's the nominee. Then you've got a lot of Trump supporters who won't vote for anyone but him, or, in some cases, Cruz.

The party is going to be split no matter what, and I don't think a split party has much of a prayer in the general election.

112 posted on 02/12/2016 8:53:05 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Except the Dems have the same splitting problem. If we get Trump vs. Clinton, it’ll be one of the most stomach-churning elections of all time, with two people who are two of the most disliked and mistrusted in America.


115 posted on 02/12/2016 8:54:29 AM PST by JediJones (RUSH LIMBAUGH on TED CRUZ: "This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan")
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I’m a Trump supporter. Cruz is my second choice.

That being said, I’ll vote for any one of them who will promise (choke, choke, cough, cough, hack, hack) to stop the invasion of foreigners into our country.

I guess that leaves me with only Trump !


117 posted on 02/12/2016 8:55:56 AM PST by Baldwin77 (Christians want their RAINBOW back. I'm offended the gays use a Biblical icon as their flag.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
>> The right of center half of the US electorate has a big problem here. 2/3 of them do not like Trump but cannot decide on one champion to support. 1/3 love Trump, and will be very very angry if he is not the nominee, to the point of splitting the party in twain.

> Unfortunately true. You've got a plurality of Trump supporters, but a lot of folks who won't vote for him if he's the nominee. Then you've got a lot of Trump supporters who won't vote for anyone but him, or, in some cases, Cruz.

The party is going to be split no matter what, and I don't think a split party has much of a prayer in the general election.

You know what's adorable but sad at the same time? The fact that anyone still believes that even a non-split (R) party, a minority of voters, has a chance in the general election by itself. BUT there is one thing sadder still, the fact that Rush and Levin actually believe that the (C) subset of the (R) minority can somehow win anything except for off-year House seats and other various down-ticket offices.

Rush and Levin, who cannot even be troubled to look at current electoral maps are both stuck using circa 1980-1984 data and all their comments are essentially mere wishful thinking. Mark constantly reminds us how he hates the term thinking outside the box, but that is the only way to get a win in the general election. And as Trump's rallies are showing, men and women, young and old, TEA Party refugees are thinking outside the box, flocking to a well positioned candidate, and driving them ( Mark and Cruzers ) crazy in the process. In short, these people really want to, and fully intend to win this one.

There is only one way to actually beat the (D)ummycrats in the general election, and that is to get crossover (D) voters, those that previously voted for Barry. There is no other way. The reason is mathematically simple. Crossover (D) votes are worth net two of our (R) votes. They simultaneously lower the (D) total and increase the (R). No amount of wishful thinking can alter the fact that crossover (D) voters are twice as valuable as me or you. In many of the twelve swing states, it will only require 2-4% crossover ( 4-8% net ) to change 52-48 or 54-46 into a win.

Cruz talking about rebuilding the Reagan coalition and getting blue dogs and Reagan Democrats is a load of bull. There are almost no blue dogs ( most have already switched, it is how the "red" states became red, duh! ). Cruz is offering no reason for the (D)'s to cross over, and would be decimated when the (D)ummies run ads of a Cruz and his father and Glenn Beck speaking about abortion and gay marriage. It was an idiotic strategy for him in the first place and the fact that it can not even attract a majority of (R) and (C) votes in the primary tells you what happens in the general when the doors are opened to (D) and (L). Dole actually got this right when he said it would be Armageddon.

To get a doctrinaire conservative into the White House requires one of two things at this point in time. Either by accident through succession, or by the candidate running with F-117 stealth capabilities, avoiding leaving any video evidence on the table for the (D)ummycrat machine to air 24/7 on the enemedia. Cruz failed to do this. It appears however that Trump, if he is conservative at all, has achieved this mission objective successfully since everyone is now calling him a liberal! All these things, such as his ridiculously meaningless donations to (D)ummies will become assets in the general. The media will have a difficult time scaring away (D) crossovers. That tiny bit of money given to (D)ummies will be a very useful investment indeed.

Important message to Rush and Levin and others: the easiest way to completely and utterly destroy Conservatism is to nominate a bible thumper firebreathing doctrinaire (C) and when he actually loses as bad or worse than McCain or Romney guess what happens? The GOPe (R)epublicrats will have their scapegoat, a mighty weapon to exile all of us into the wilderness worse than after Goldwater. And unlike that situation, there won't be a return for (C)onservatives decades later because the republic will have been finally destroyed. ( Wanna bet this has never even crossed the minds of Rush and Levin? ).

238 posted on 02/12/2016 3:17:34 PM PST by Democratic-Republican
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