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Gavin Seim Is Live With Four Under FBI Siege-Surrender Expected
YouTube ^ | 2/11/2016 | Gavin Seim

Posted on 02/11/2016 7:54:56 AM PST by Nextrush

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To: Faith65

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thread from last night still going...


21 posted on 02/11/2016 8:47:47 AM PST by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: Nextrush

This is crazy. Graham was on his way. Supposed to surrender tomorrow and all of a sudden six armored vehicles come in and tell them to surrender right now.
The FBI totally lied to the protesters. Seems they are trying to provoke them.
Ceazy


22 posted on 02/11/2016 8:49:47 AM PST by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: weston

ok. This was last night ....whew...


23 posted on 02/11/2016 8:51:50 AM PST by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

This was the wrong fight in every possible way. You have to pick your battles. If anything, picking this losing battle - heck, nobody in the town wanted them there, they were already bent over for the gub’mint - set this particular movement back to square one. Might as well have gone to San Francisco and tried to start a war. This has nothing to do with patriotism. No one wants to follow fools on a fool’s errand.


24 posted on 02/11/2016 8:54:51 AM PST by MaggiesPitchfork
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To: MaggiesPitchfork

You are missing the point, read the first amendment.

Read this to learn the backstory. I have been following this story for a long time.
Did you hear the news out of Oregon this past couple of weeks? You may have missed it because the media coverage of an Arizona Rancher being killed by “authorities” has been minimal and extremely biased. I would like to offer some additional information from the perspective of an Arizona Ranchers daughter.

I wasn’t sure what I thought about Ammon Bundy and the group of people who went from a peaceful protest in support of Oregon Ranchers Dwight and Steve Hammond to an act of civil disobedience taking over the Malheur Wildlife Refuge. I worried that the approach they took might not be the best course of action. I started doing some research to learn more about the cause. I came to learn that after utilizing all of the more common methods American citizens use to address grievances with their government, they took the next step of escalation as many in the past have done.

The history books are full of examples of this kind of action. I am sure you have heard of Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King. More recently we have had Occupy Wallstreet. The news media was showing wall to wall coverage of the riots this past year in Ferguson and many other major cities. In these cases the “authorities” used restraint.

That restraint ended on January 26th 2016 when the “authorities” opened fire on LaVoy Finicum as he was driving from the refuge to the neighboring county to give a presentation on the Constitution. They were scheduled to meet with the Sheriff of Grant county. They were exercising their first Amendment Rights. “Congress shall make no law concerning the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” That is the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America.

For this, our government “authorities” put a plan into action, including armed snipers in trees, drones overhead and a pre-planned roadblock spending millions of tax-payer dollars to stop this group of “armed citizens.” Citizens who were legally using their second amendment rights. It is not illegal to be armed in the state of Oregon.

Two Eye-witnesses have come forward. Victoria Sharp is the first. She is an eighteen year old Christian singer who was riding with the group in LaVoy’s pickup. Her testimony came out before the FBI released the video footage they obtained from their aerial camera that has no audio (sound.) Victoria and the second witness Shawna Cox both state that the authorities were firing on their vehicle while Ryan Payne had his hands out the window trying to peacefully surrender. Ryan did surrender at the first roadblock and has been incarcerated since. Victoria was afraid to exit the vehicle and Shawna decided to remain with her.

LaVoy yelled out that he was going to see the Sheriff in Grant County. The fight or flight instinct must have kicked in and he drove away from the first traffic stop only to discover the roadblock down the road a short distance later. According to Shawna Cox the authorities were firing upon their vehicle immediately when LaVoy drove into the snowbank. They could see lasers on all of them as LaVoy jumped out of the truck with his hands in the air. Shawna and Victoria both state he was not reaching for a gun but spontaneously reacting to being shot.

At this point Victoria was begging the authorities to let her out of the vehicle because she is an EMT. She wanted to help LaVoy as he lay dying in the snow. Instead these authorities continued firing upon the vehicle with three innocent Americans in it. Remember we are innocent until proven guilty in America and even the FBI are not supposed to be Judge, Jury and Executioner.
Both witnesses have stated emphatically, “They fired over 100 rounds into the vehicle.” Ryan Bundy was shot in the shoulder while in the pickup, further evidence that the authorities opened fire on these citizens.

In addition to the arrest of all the occupants of Mr. Finicum’s pickup and Ammon Bundy the authorities also arrested Pete Santilli an internet reporter who was at the hospital recording the events that day. Yet another attack on the Constitution and the “Free Press.”

It has come to a time in America where we the people fear our government with good reason. We decided that we stand with the Finicum family and the other patriots who have been jailed. We made the decision to attend the funeral of LaVoy Finicum this past Friday. Numerous people tried to talk us out of going to the funeral. Saying, “You will be marked, you know the FBI is labeling anyone who supports this as a domestic terrorist” People genuinely felt we put ourselves at risk by attending the funeral of an American Patriot.

Even though we never met LaVoy Finicum we have come to know him through his work, his words and those who knew him best. He was an amazing man who raised 11 children and cared for over 50 foster kids. He was a cowboy who would help anyone in need. He was a Patriot, a teacher and a student of the Constitution and I believe a name that won’t soon be forgotten.

Following the funeral the Finicum family gave a statement. Thara Finicum Tenney and Belle Finicum Collier said, “Many questions remain unanswered about our fathers death. We don’t want the media’s bias. We don’t want the FBI’s bias. We want the truth.”

The sisters said their dad had been called many things by the world this week but they call him Daddy. They said their “Daddy” believed he was following the law. “It was the federal government that was violating it. We agree with him. We also agree with Thomas Jefferson who once said, ‘When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.’”

Belle continued, choking back tears, “Do we believe that peaceful actions justify the use of deadly force? Do we believe that two hands up in surrender justifies the use of deadly force? Do we believe that following the rule of law, the U.S. Constitution justifies the use of deadly force? If we do then where is liberty?”

This week I wept for the Finicum family, our country and the loss of innocence for a young girl, Victoria Sharp who now has body guards because she witnessed the murder of a fellow American at the hands of the authorities. Will you stand with the Patriots and demand a full investigation into the killing of LaVoy Finicum? Do you believe in Freedom or is tyranny acceptable?


25 posted on 02/11/2016 9:08:24 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: MaggiesPitchfork

Thanks for sharing.


26 posted on 02/11/2016 9:14:16 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Nextrush; goodnesswins; PROCON; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; ...
New Ping from the refuge for today.02-11-16

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me.

I lost my Oregon list when my computer crashed last year, so please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.

27 posted on 02/11/2016 9:22:17 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Nextrush

Another bump. 02-11-16


28 posted on 02/11/2016 9:27:51 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Nextrush

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=616S8t9tek4


29 posted on 02/11/2016 9:28:33 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

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30 posted on 02/11/2016 9:34:22 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

One guy is losing it! He’s not going to surrender.


31 posted on 02/11/2016 9:53:26 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Sounds like David Fry wants to die....I think he’ll get his wish.


32 posted on 02/11/2016 9:59:46 AM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Faith65

This is not taking the country back.


33 posted on 02/11/2016 10:01:41 AM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Now hes talking suicide. This guy is losing it. Just walk out.


34 posted on 02/11/2016 10:17:42 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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To: DrewsMum

No. This will only embolden the Obama Gestapo (FBI/ATF/etc).


35 posted on 02/11/2016 10:19:56 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: azkathy

Yes you gave examples from History, but did any of those include armed resistance? That ups the ante big time.


36 posted on 02/11/2016 10:20:44 AM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: US_MilitaryRules
Wow. The stream is painful to listen to. The FBI is already using the Nuremburg Defense: "We just have a job to do."

There will be death in Oregon today, I think.

37 posted on 02/11/2016 10:23:57 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Twitter keeps saying Kriss Anne hall is egging David on


38 posted on 02/11/2016 10:41:13 AM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: backwoods-engineer
There will be death in Oregon today, I think.

There wasn't, thank God. Fry is now in custody and unharmed.

39 posted on 02/11/2016 11:45:17 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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