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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I don’t know or care what Canadian law is. U.S. law recognized him as a citizen at birth (which is the same thing a NBC, despite the pitiful attempts to demonstrate otherwise.)

If his parents didn’t file for the consular report before he turned 18, he can file for a certificate of citizenship. If he has had a U.S. passport (and I believe I read somewhere that he had) he has already presented some evidence that he is a citizen. I am going to assume it is the citizenship he inherited from his mother at birth until someone shows me something that proves he was naturalized.


57 posted on 02/10/2016 9:12:26 PM PST by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Gil4
U.S. law recognized him as a citizen at birth (which is the same thing a NBC

It's the exact opposite: If it requires legislation by congress under their power to create laws of naturalization, then, even if you are born a citizen, it is the opposite of a natural born citizen, who would always be what he is regardless of any legislation.

64 posted on 02/10/2016 9:17:22 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Gil4
I don't know or care what Canadian law is. U.S. law recognized him as a citizen at birth (which is the same thing a NBC, despite the pitiful attempts to demonstrate otherwise.)

OK, suppose for the sake of argument what you say above is the gospel truth: That Cruz is an NBC and the attempts to demonstrate otherwise are indeed pitiful.

The fact is this: in the absence of a positive judicial determination that Ted Cruz is an NBC, the Democrat Party, with a complicit mass media, will do everything in their power to muddy this issue and convince the electorate that there's a problem.

Collectively, IMHO, such forces will easily be able to create enough doubt in voters' minds so as to cost Ted Cruz the election.

That's right: even though Ted Cruz IS an NBC, this issue could cost him dearly in the general election.

Cruz supporters who think that this will be a total non-issue are hopelessly naive, and indeed denial.

Democrats and the media hammering Cruz with this issue might cost him independent and Democratic crossover voters, as well low-information voters, and these are exactly the voters whose support will be necessary for Cruz to win the general election.

I support Ted Cruz, but for his fanboys to whistle past the graveyard on the NBC issue, and think that it won't cause him problems in the general election, is patently absurd.

I'm in the camp of those Cruz supporters who believe that a judicial determination in Cruz's favor is absolutely critical to cancelling out the NBC issue in the general election.

To think that this line of attack against Cruz will only come from Trump is just absurd.

And if Ted Cruz's supporters on this board are any reflection of the character of the man they're supporting, then I'm going to have to reconsider my support for him, because the hysterical vitriol I'm seeing coming from them is just appalling.

The fact is that Donald Trump has captured the attention of the electorate much more effectively than Cruz has, and Trump is getting support and enthusiasm from demographics that Cruz could only dream of.

For Cruz's supporters to just sit back and denigrate all these Americans who are supporting Trump is, IMHO, the height of arrogance, and indeed it indicates a profound lack of awareness as to what is really occurring this election cycle.

Cruz supporters can rest assured, however, that if Donald Trump fails to win the GOP nomination, the passion which Trump has awakened will probably transfer over to their candidate.

But there can be no debate about where this phenomenon began.

All aboard the Trump Hype Train

114 posted on 02/11/2016 12:51:29 AM PST by sargon
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