[HiTech RedNeck]

Well even at the worst (from a Protestant viewpoint) it had to be able to give rise to Martin Luther and others. Can’t be utterly dead for that.

The bible says wheat and tares. It never said how much of each one.

[MHGinTN]

What all the vagaries of catholiciism and Protestantism should tell us is that which Jesus established is not an institution since salvation did not disappear from the Earth even int he darkest periods of Human History. It is the Holy Spirit Who works to establish the stones of the spiritual Church, the members of His Body, the building of The Bride, regardless of the 'isms' at issue.

I once made the mistake of explaining this to a staunch catholic apologist with a closed mind, and I pointed out to this individual that even the stained glass windows could be used to bring someone completely illiterate to Christ during the darkest periods.