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To: DiogenesLamp

Denying the specific enumerated power of Congress because it does not fit your agenda does not change the fact that Congress was SPECIFICALLY given that power under the Constitution.

The “rules of naturalization” means:

1) who is a citizen at birth (naturally born)
2) who is not a citizen and must be naturalized

If you don’t like that, then change the constitution.


17 posted on 01/11/2016 4:49:21 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: taxcontrol
The “rules of naturalization” means:

1) who is a citizen at birth (naturally born) 2) who is not a citizen and must be naturalized

You keep repeating this, but that doesn't make it true. Congress does not create "natural" citizens. It creates Adopted citizens. Natural citizens are created without any resort to statutory law. It's that simple.

23 posted on 01/11/2016 4:57:09 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: taxcontrol
As one who has had to research and write briefs on these matters I am quite interest in what you say. Precisely what are the "rules of naturalization" that you put in quotes and refer to and where are they to be found?
24 posted on 01/11/2016 4:57:17 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: taxcontrol

“The “rules of naturalization” means:

1) who is a citizen at birth (naturally born)
2) who is not a citizen and must be naturalized

If you don’t like that, then change the constitution.”

This is how I’ve always understood it as well. For example, I have a daughter who was born in the Philippines. I’m a U.S. citizen, my wife is a dual citizen of both the U.S. and the Philippines. My daughter, though not born on U.S. soil, did not have to be naturalized. All we had to do was apply for a U.S. passport to “claim” her citizenship, and to accomplish this, we were only required to show that ONE of her parents (we chose me since I was born in the U.S.) is a U.S. citizen. Now my understanding is that my daughter is “natural born”, since she was never required to go through the naturalization process. Unless I’m missing something, it would seem that the same criteria would apply to Cruz.


51 posted on 01/11/2016 5:33:31 PM PST by lquist1
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