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To: Mr Rogers
Not true. The meaning of “natural born subject” was defined by Parliament, and changed by Parliament several times.

I'm not sure why you insist on making all these inane comments. If the founding fathers wanted Congress to have the power to change the meaning of natural born citizen, then they would have given them that power in the Constitution. Saying that "parliament" could do it is stupid. FYI, "The common law of England is not the common law of these States." –George Mason

and as long since ruled by the Supreme Court

Oh, so you have a Supreme Court case that declares that a child born to a woman who is an American citizen is a natural born citizen, regardless of where he is born? I should like to see this.

84 posted on 01/12/2016 8:24:33 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

What I wrote was entirely correct - the meaning of NBC is rooted in NBS, as ruled on by the US Supreme Court. If you do not know that, then you need to study something other than Vattel.

Congress has always had the right to determine meanings not defined in the US Constitution, as do the courts. On the whole, I prefer CONGRESS define words over the courts, but their right to do so is undoubted.

And since NBS was a legal phrase whose meaning could be adjusted by legislature, NBC is as well.

You don’t have to like it. You can worship Vattel if you wish. But the courts agree with me, and have for a long, long time.

The arms I bear did not exist when the Constitution was written, but CONGRESS can decide if they meet the intent of the 2nd Amendment. Congress does not always rule as I wish - see the Assault Weapons Ban - but they have the right.


85 posted on 01/12/2016 8:42:36 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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