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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Original intent of the meaning of NBC arguably includes the idea that the legislature can adjust the meaning. Why? Because NBC is based on the UK’s “natural born subject”, per multiple Supreme Court rulings. and the meaning of NBS had been adjusted multiple times by the Parliament, starting in 1350. The Framers understood that NBS could be expanded by the legislature, so why does anyone think the meaning of NBC could not?

If one believes in original intent, and understands that intent based on what the Founders would have known and how THEY used the phrase.

As another FR poster has pointed out, the “arms” in the 2nd Amendment includes only muskets and swords. Our use of “arms” has expanded, although the Congress has also contracted the meaning - no nukes in your garage, and at times no “assault weapons”.

All Congress has done is expand the accepted (as of 1765) meaning of NBC to include it being passed thru the mother and not just the father.

But instead, you want the US Supreme Court - the ones who invent wholly new rights, such as the right to not be lonely in the night, to define NBC for you?

Fine. Let TRUMP sue Cruz, and then the court can ask the US Supreme Court to define NBC for them - because under the law, Ted Cruz cannot ask the Supreme Court to do so. Something Trump knows, but doesn’t care about. Trump & truth have little in common.


27 posted on 01/11/2016 6:00:41 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Mr Rogers
Because NBC is based on the UK’s “natural born subject”,

Is it?

"If not Vattel, then where did they arrive at this term. Many of those who ridicule us like to quote Blackstone as authoritative that the United States adopted English Common Law. They like to state that Blackstone's natural born subject is equivalent of a natural born citizen. There is no doubt that the Founding Father's were influenced from Blackstone’s Commentary. However, the Framers of the Constitution recognized that it was Blackstone, who argued that the Parliament and King could change the constitution at will. Blackstone was increasingly recognized by the Americans as a proponent of arbitrary power. In fact, the framers rejected the notion that the United States was under English Common Law, "The common law of England is not the common law of these States." George Mason one of Virginia's delegates to the Constitutional Convention."

More here.

33 posted on 01/11/2016 6:06:08 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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