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To: Pikachu_Dad

“We are not confusing anything. There are only two categories of citizen.natural born and naturalized.”

Exactly correct. There isn’t a third category. Mama Cruz was born in the USA. She never renounced citizenship. No matter where Cruz was born he is an NBC. To put the birther comparison to rest there has been no cover up to hide documents or circumstances with Cruz as opposed to Obama.


20 posted on 01/11/2016 5:53:05 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: jdsteel

“Exactly correct. There isn’t a third category. Mama Cruz was born in the USA. She never renounced citizenship. No matter where Cruz was born he is an NBC.”

By that standard so was Obama. Yet many conservatives everywhere including here questioned it. Why?


50 posted on 01/11/2016 6:45:18 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: jdsteel

There are two types of citizenship, naturalized and born citizen. (The definition of born citizen has changed over time, i.e. anchor babies and perhaps soon illegals). There is a subset of born citizen which is a natural born citizen. This is a born citizen that would have no other nation having claims on them, i.e. born to U.S. Citizen parents on U.S. soil. This is exactly why the draft of the Constitution was amended by adding the word natural before the word born. This definition does not change over time which is why it is important to the security on the nation.

Like it or not, that is the historical record and the meaning according to those who crafted the document.

Aside from the founders (who by definition could not be natural born citizens thus the exception for them) there are only two known cases where someone who was not a natural born citizen became president - Chester Arthur and the current occupier.

Those that ignore the facts, and dissemble the plain and simple truth and meaning of the founders, provide the means by which new usurpers may claim the presidency thus hastening the great damage and decay that has already occurred to the Republic.

Respectfully,....


59 posted on 01/11/2016 7:28:04 AM PST by Badboo (Why it is important)
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