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War Is On The Horizon: Is It Too Late To Stop It? — Paul Craig Roberts
Paul Craig Roberts ^ | 7 Dec 2015 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 12/10/2015 9:06:18 PM PST by amorphous

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To: Bobalu

Einstein said, “I don’t know what weapons the next World War will be fought with, but the one after that will be fought with sticks and stones.”


41 posted on 12/11/2015 6:38:21 AM PST by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: DesertRhino
They have been removed.

Good if true - do you / can you link a public source backing that?

42 posted on 12/11/2015 6:41:00 AM PST by amorphous
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To: DesertRhino
While looking for info on the Turkey nukes, I ran across this:

9 Dec 2015: Poland Considers Deployment of U.S. Tactical Nuclear Weapons, Directed against Russia

43 posted on 12/11/2015 6:45:40 AM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous
I can't find 0bama's name in the article. Did I miss it? 0bama and his regime are responsible for this Charlie Foxtrot.

5.56mm

44 posted on 12/11/2015 6:48:41 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: UCANSEE2
Well.... Russia and China could just wait...

I've seen a number of references to Putin's ideology of striking first if a fight is inevitable. True or not, it will play in the thinking on both sides.

45 posted on 12/11/2015 6:49:55 AM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

Russia’s initial attacks were not against ISIL.


46 posted on 12/11/2015 6:52:12 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
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To: UCANSEE2
We had a strike group...

I'm not sure what your point is. If you're saying Obama will back down, sure, but Putin won't if pushed too far - he'll launch something - somewhere - if only tactical. Then the ball will be back in Obama's court.

47 posted on 12/11/2015 6:54:47 AM PST by amorphous
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To: grey_whiskers
I'm wondering how much *reliable* defense-in-depth we have guarding them:

If they're still in Turkey, I'd say good defense - plus they're easily disabled - time permitting. The real problem might be our CIC turning them over, or arranging for such, to his pal Erdogan.

48 posted on 12/11/2015 6:59:10 AM PST by amorphous
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To: DesertRhino
I can't find any evidence online that they've been removed.

Plenty that they're still there:

"If everything goes to plan, Turkey will receive the United States' newest nuclear weapon in 2019. Turkey currently hosts between 60 and 70 B61 gravity bombs at Incirlik air force base. During the Cold War, Turkish aircraft were on full nuclear alert status – meaning that Turkish aircraft were loaded with nuclear weapons and ready to take to the air in minutes, should NATO give the order. Now Turkish F-16 are only nuclear certified and would have to fly to Incirlik and pick up the bombs."

http://betinews.com/?p=4475

49 posted on 12/11/2015 7:12:20 AM PST by amorphous
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50 posted on 12/11/2015 7:39:07 AM PST by amorphous
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To: demshateGod

I’m not interested in fighting Putin, ISIS, Turkey, Assad, or any other man in some other country. Our enemies are here.

good point


51 posted on 12/11/2015 7:52:36 AM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: UCANSEE2
ur #22, yeah that's a possibility. More like probability as things are going. We are committing suicide as a nation and the libs can't get it done soon enough; they must think it won't affect them or loved ones.

It's like they are in denial; I don't know how they think. People are not a news junkie like me and they just don't know what's going on or how serious it can be.

52 posted on 12/11/2015 2:54:05 PM PST by Aliska
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To: amorphous

Wow. Poking a bear with a sharp stick is not a good idea ? Gee, who would have thunk that. So, what will the cronies do now ? Blow up another plane ? Apparently two was not enough.


53 posted on 12/11/2015 2:57:25 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The use of the name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: amorphous

Thanks for the response.

My point was that we had the resources, but Obama wouldn’t use them.

Obama will not do anything in defense of the USA.


54 posted on 12/11/2015 6:15:15 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Don W

There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas


55 posted on 12/11/2015 6:19:02 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Aliska
We are committing suicide as a nation and the libs can't get it done soon enough; they must think it won't affect them or loved ones.

Unlike the present United States there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist-Leninist America. [Now] you can get popular like Daniel Elsburg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being a dissident [and] for criticizing your Pentagon. In [the] future these people will simply be [he makes a squishy noise] squashed like cockroaches for criticizing the government. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful [and] noble ideas of EQUALITY. This they don't understand and it will be the greatest shock for them, of course.

-- Yuri Bezmenov

56 posted on 12/11/2015 8:01:36 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2
You will be lined up against the wall and shot (shawt). In re liberal Marxists when the real Marxists take over.

-- Yuri Bezmenov

He and I had met on yt before; I just didn't remember who he was.

But it hasn't happened in European socialist countries. At least not full bore mass executions.

Also short but good read, where you got your quote, just googled the man's name and came to it:

And a link:

Youtube - Obama's End Game Revealed by the KGB

Your quote came from here and probably elsewhere, just googled his name.

Bezmenov's prediction (short read)

It seems like it's going in fits and starts in America with no clear delineations; however, the pace will probably accelerate exponentially in Stage 4.

57 posted on 12/11/2015 8:42:16 PM PST by Aliska
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To: UCANSEE2
Obama will not do anything in defense of the USA.

Other than what offers him a smidgen of plausible deniability, you're absolutely right. That's why he says he's fighting ISIS, but really he isn't by any stretch. When the mask finally comes completely off, the pretending will stop and we will have been left defenseless.

58 posted on 12/12/2015 10:15:29 AM PST by amorphous
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To: Aliska
It seems like it's going in fits and starts in America with no clear delineations

I think that's because we have so many organizations that want to take over America.

It's like a lion after having crippled it's victim. All of a sudden there are a variety of other animals hanging around trying to sneak in and get a piece.

59 posted on 12/12/2015 10:20:53 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: amorphous

I know this question has come up, but it seems no one pursues it to get the answer.

Why does Obama insist on calling it ISIL when everyone else calls it ISIS ?


60 posted on 12/12/2015 10:22:30 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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