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1 posted on 12/10/2015 9:35:57 AM PST by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon
Hundreds of laws allow people to be prosecuted for things that are not obviously illegal, even if someone does not intend to break the law.

Mens rea
2 posted on 12/10/2015 9:39:40 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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He said DNR officers have discretion as to who gets a warning or ticket, and that they put much thought into their decision.

Uh, I'm going to have to go with horseshit on this one. If you can operate the damn thing with no license, you can operate the thing with no license, and that's that, and no on "putting much thought" into it would write a citation.

4 posted on 12/10/2015 9:43:30 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Anyone who works sixty hours a week should be able to drive a snowmobile for pleasure.


5 posted on 12/10/2015 9:44:14 AM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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To: MichCapCon

How frustrating. Stuff like this will eventually result in a
Snowmobile Jihad; a complete and brazen rebellion against stupid rules. Sometimes an Officer’s job is to be a Party Pooper. So be it, just be sure the law is easily known before dropping the hammer on somebody.


7 posted on 12/10/2015 9:45:08 AM PST by lee martell
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Red light cameras which cannot prove who the driver is happen to punish the owner. Come to find out this is quite a habit of government to charge the registered owner and not the perp.

I was at a National forest gun range and a dude asks me to try my rifle. I was out of ball ammunition and told him the only stuff I have we cannot shoot because it is tracers we may not shoot. He insists and gives me $5 to buy the bullet from me and shoots it. He misses the berm and the range officer sees a tracer and calls the Federal game warden.

Well, the game warden decided to give me the ticket even though I had not done it, telling me he could put me in jail for forest damage because the fire trucks were called in to inspect the area.

So, if anyone tells you gun registration does not mean confiscation, they lie. They will use criminals and TERRORISTS to seek out our properties and get us in trouble with their help,min typical societal socialist division fashion at the criminal justice level.


8 posted on 12/10/2015 9:48:53 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall noshi)
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[[A Man Faced Charges for Driving a Snowmobile With a Suspended License When No License is Needed]]

He must be a Christrian


11 posted on 12/10/2015 9:52:27 AM PST by Bob434
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The officers were offering little information about what the group did wrong...

Passive aggressive escalation of the situation. Now a universal practice amongst LEOs.

When they returned, the group continued to wait in the cold for what would be a total of an hour and a half.

More passive aggressive escalation and punishment through process. LEOs will ALWAYS delay you well beyond what is required to resolve the situation.

12 posted on 12/10/2015 9:54:05 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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He was probably on the Super Secret No Fly List.


13 posted on 12/10/2015 9:54:11 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, unable to call a Spade a Spade...)
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Michigan statute is very clear:

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(dnzkpz1tlotcokwav2w2mvzp))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-257-904

(1) A person whose operator’s or chauffeur’s license or registration certificate has been suspended or revoked, whose application for license has been denied, or who has never applied for a license, shall not operate a motor vehicle upon a highway or other place open to the general public or generally accessible to motor vehicles, including an area designated for the parking of motor vehicles, within this state.

Motor vehicle is defined as:

(h) “Motor vehicle” means a vehicle, including a trailer, that is operated or designed for operation on a public highway by power other than muscular power and has more than 2 wheels. Motor vehicle does not include any of the following:

(i) A motorcycle.

(ii) A moped.

(iii) A farm tractor or other implement of husbandry that is not subject to the registration requirements of the Michigan vehicle code under section 216 of the Michigan vehicle code, 1949 PA 300, MCL 257.216.

(iv) An ORV.

(v) A golf cart.

(vi) A power-driven mobility device.

(vii) A commercial quadricycle.

He’s in the clear. ORV’s are not motor vehicles. What a bunch of dingalings. To be expected from an overreaching government.


14 posted on 12/10/2015 9:56:11 AM PST by Up Yours Marxists
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I live in the snowmobile country haven of the lower peninsula and I just want to know who the heck has snow???? Or was this from last year?


17 posted on 12/10/2015 10:25:26 AM PST by MarMema
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The Department of Natural Resources says it has no control or power to change the law

A classic example of administrative tyranny. No one knows what the law or regulation intended, or whether it is appropriately applied, BUT it IS on the books, and the enforcers will enforce it.

22 posted on 12/10/2015 11:18:58 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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