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To: walford

Christianity didn’t teach world domination via the sword and other means either before or after its Reformation.

The only way to so “reform” Islam would be to chuck the Koran, which would be chucking Islam.


2 posted on 12/03/2015 11:52:50 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

“Christianity didn’t teach world domination via the sword and other means either before or after its Reformation.”

Christians forcibly imposing their faith on others arguably started when Constantine converted to Christianity in the 4th century. How do you think pre-Christian Europe, which had a multiplicity of native polytheistic religions, eventually came under single a faith that originated in the Middle East?


“The only way to so ‘reform’ Islam would be to chuck the Koran, which would be chucking Islam.”

It’s hard to say; there are over 100 references in the Quran to killing the Infidel. But, there was a time when Christians slew the unbeliever who refused to convert.

Given this history — and that Christendom has since developed a means to live in peace with non-believers, there may be some possibility within Islam as well.

The sheer numbers of Muslims makes me more than skeptical of wiping out Islam by persuasion or otherwise as you seem to imply.

Indeed, the process of reforming Islam from within my prove to be beneficial for all concerned — if it is possible.


8 posted on 12/04/2015 12:13:50 AM PST by walford ("In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: 9YearLurker
Christianity didn’t teach world domination via the sword and other means either before or after its Reformation.

I agree that forced conversion was not a policy of the church but they always went along for the ride when the European powers conquered the New World.

When the conquers tore down the old gods the evangelist priest were there with the new God.

17 posted on 12/04/2015 12:38:01 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: 9YearLurker

First of all. All three religions do not worship the same god of abraham. Mohammed is the Johnny come lately. When he founded his religion in the 7th century he was familiar with christian and Jewish scriptures. It’s as if he picked and chose the elements that fit his purposes. He took some of the Jewish heros of faith as part of his story but the attributes of the god he worships in no way share any commonality with the god of old testament which is shared by jews and christians.


25 posted on 12/04/2015 1:00:38 AM PST by applpie
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