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Donald Trump's Political Life Insurance -- Ted Cruz at Number-Two, Carson and Rubio Destroyed ...
Patton@Bastogne ^ | 2015-11-08 | Patton@Bastogne

Posted on 11/08/2015 9:24:10 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne

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2015-11-08


Ted Cruz at Number-Two is Donald Trump's "Political Life Insurance Policy" that FORCES the GOPe-RINO Cartel to "allow" Donald Trump to win the 2016 GOP Presidential nomination.

I maintain that Donald Trump WANTS Ted Cruz at a SOLID Number-Two position in the polls ...

meaning that Dr. Ben Carson MUST be effectively knocked out the GOP Presidential Race (down to single digits polling) ...

along with Marco "Amnesty" Rubio.


Donald Trump (with Ted Cruz not lifting a finger, for plausible deniability) ...

will make sure that Dr. Ben Carson is effectively "out" by Christmas-2015 (my previous prediction)

and that Marco Rubio has a "terrible" showing in Iowa and New Hampshire.



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Why ? does Donald Trump want Ted Cruz (his only genuine conservative rival) at Number-Two ?

To FORCE the GOPe-RINO wing to accept Donald Trump, knowing that if the GOPe-RINO folks destroy Donald Trump, then Ted Cruz (the GOPe-RINO's biggest fear) will win the 2016 GOP Presidential nomination.



Here's an example of that political strategy: Obama and Joe Biden.

Obama: Alinsky Socialist

Joe Biden: Genuine Village Idiot

A key reason that many Conservatives fear impeaching Obama is "President Joe Biden".

You know, the great Joe Biden who's the "Super Bowl MVP" of STUPID political gaffes.

So, Obama is protected from Impeachment because "no one" (Democrat or Republican) wants Joe Biden to PERMANENTLY WRECK either the United States of Democratic Party.




Dittos for the political relationship between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.


The "Washington Cartel Establishment" (Karl Rove, George Will, Dr. Krauthammer, et al) is TERRIFIED of a "President Ted Cruz".

The "GOPe-RINO Cartel" FEARS that a "President Ted Cruz" would (for the first time in decades) EFFECTIVLY DISMANTLE (agency-by-agency) the creeping UniParty socialism that's gradually turning the United States of America in the "new" Soviet Union.




The "GOPe-RINO Cartel" merely WORRIES that a "President Donald Trump" ... thinking he would be a one-term affair, and that they could "paint" Donald Trump as a gigantic failure.

So ... Donald Trump KNOWS that having Ted Cruz as his "Joe Biden" (in the eyes of the GOPe-RINO Cartel) guarentees his victory and election as 45th President of the United States.

Moreover, Donald Trump has issues in his past (business deals, flip-flops, et al) that the "GOPe-RINO Cartel" can and WILL use to Destroy Donald Trump.



Why do you think that Yeb Bush REFUSES to drop-out of the GOP Primaries ?

Yeb Bush KNOWS that he "has the goods" on Donald Trump, and can EASILY destroy Trump in Iowa, New Hampshire and especially Florida.

All it takes is "money" (lots of it) to run a MASSIVE number of TV-Radio ads.

That's EXACTLY how Mitt "Romney-Care" defeated Newt Gingrich in Florida in 2012. Money, Money, Money, Money, Money, Money ...

Mitt Romney spent $ 15 million in Florida ... Newt Gingich spent only about $ 1 million (I know, because I worked for Newt's Florida campaign)



Ted Cruz at Number-Two is Donald Trump's "Political Life Insurance Policy" that FORCES the GOPe-RINO Cartel to "allow" Donald Trump to win the 2016 GOP Presidential nomination.



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To: I-ambush
That strategy could backfire: they could look to Cruz to save them from Trump.

That is the one thing they WON'T do. They are more afraid of Cruz than Trump.

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

21 posted on 11/08/2015 9:57:28 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: I-ambush

That would be acceptable though I think Trumps bombast and force of personality could steamroll the media and apparatchiks in ways never seen before except Reagan and maybe Teddy or Andrew Jackson

Presidents who ruled by strength of personality for better or worse

Trump however imperfect is more on our team than not

Plus he dismantles the old guard by default


22 posted on 11/08/2015 9:57:43 AM PST by wardaddy (I want to destroy the GOPe and beltway elite as much as defeat the Democrats)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

I don’t think the GOPe has anything on Trump that could take him out; if they did, they would have done so by now. They did their best in the Fox debate, which was run by the GOPe. They have tried using BKs and ex-wives and past positions, and none of it is resonating. Yeb has saturated the airwaves in NH and no one wants him. I do think Trump likes Cruz, but he is keeping his options open, and I don’t think he is using Cruz as some sort of insurance policy. He doesn’t want any no. 2 candidates that are close to him, and so he has been tougher on Carson lately. That is all.


23 posted on 11/08/2015 10:04:08 AM PST by Defiant (I wouldn't have to mansplain if it weren't for all those wymidiots.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

This is funny but you are thinking way too much. Put down the coffee pot.

Heh.


24 posted on 11/08/2015 10:08:46 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: poinq

‘The question is whether or not he can keep it up without a ground campaign.’

Trump has a very strong ground game. Use your favorite search engine and plug in ‘trump iowa ground game.’ You’ll be surprised. Also in VA he needed 5,000names to get on the ballot. He turned in 15,000 names well ahead of schedule.


25 posted on 11/08/2015 10:11:14 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any atWtempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: deport

From those numbers, I’m confident that Fiorina, Kasich, Paul, Huckabee, Christie, Santorum, Jindal, Graham, and Pataki are completely out of it. They had their chance on stage and on the campaign trail, and they failed.

This should come down to Trump, Carson, Rubio, Cruz, or Bush. I am pretty sure that Carson will not weather these attacks, even though the most effective ones are unreasonable. He doesn’t have the experience dealing with vitriol that the others have. Between Rubio and Bush, I expect the establishment to go for Rubio, completely surprised and bewildered that voters don’t like the next Bush in line.

I don’t have any predictions beyond there. I know what I’d like to see: Cruz/Trump because Trump will attract more voters and enthusiasm than anyone else, and I am 100% certain that Cruz is a reliable conservative. What I’d least like to see is Rubio/Anyone, since we know Rubio is a liar and an opportunist, not in any way a small government conservative. But I don’t have any predictions on how that final three-way race will play out. It depends on the evolution of the election more than anything else.


26 posted on 11/08/2015 10:14:16 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: I-ambush

At this point, does America even deserved to be “saved” from The Donald?

The Donald would be powerful medicine in every respect for what now ails that territory once known as “the United States of America”. The nation has fallen into some very dark days, and like a person suffering from advancing cancer, a combination of remedies is imperative.

Radiation, chemotherapy, and some surgery all may be needed to even get the malignancy under control, and to excise it completely will take time, patience and reconstruction.

Sure, The Donald may not be as ideologically pure as some would like, and there is no argument that will sway that disagreement one whit. But consider the alternative, should the current course of events not be either reversed or shunted sharply away from its looming destiny. Of course, The Donald is perhaps not the one-and-only who could avert this dangerous path upon which we are now set, but he brings a lot to the table that would be available to make the change or even full reversal.

Job One now is to get just about anybody but Herself into the position of President as of January 2017. Be it The Donald or any of a number of other highly competent individuals, this remains our priority.


27 posted on 11/08/2015 10:14:52 AM PST by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Trump did emphatically say he likes someone in the field (as a potential running mate), and as we’ve seen lately, that someone isn’t Carson.


28 posted on 11/08/2015 10:14:55 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any atWtempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Sounds like a plan to me. There are only 2 maybe 2 1/2 candidates that are not part of the GOPe. That being Trump, Cruz and the 1/2 being Carson.

Bottom line for those wanting change in Washington and breaking the Karl Roves of the GOPe those are the ONLY possible candidates. Anyone else and things go on as they are.


29 posted on 11/08/2015 10:17:27 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: poinq; All
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The question is whether or not he (Donald Trump) can keep it up without a ground campaign


Political analysts-historians are asking themselves this same STRATEGIC question.

Donald Trump (like him or not) has done a briilaint job of by-passing the Establishment Media and the GOPe-RINO Washington Cartel.

They both HATE Donald Trump.



Yet, Donald Trump ...

like WWII German generals Heinz Wilhelm Guderian, and Rommel, and Patton ...

and like Gen. Douglas McArthur's "brilliant" amphibious landing at Inchon during the Korean War ...

Donald Trump has "blitzkrieged" the living hell out of his political enemies on the battlefield.



Is having an "old-fashioned" political ground game (precient captains, yard signs, phone banks) similar to the "obsolete" (but fantastically brave) Polish calvary in World War Two ?



I don't think so.

Apparently, Ted Cruz and Jeff Roe (campaign manager) doesn't think so either.

They, like I agree, that:

1) a GREAT candidate is ESSENTIAL

2) a GREAT county-by-county "Get Out the Vote" campaign is ESSENTIAL



In 2012 I sadly watched in Florida as Newt Gingrich was politically destroyed by Mitt Romney's "pretty good" ground game (Newt had virtually none).

In 2015, having become a Ted Cruz supporter, I DID NOT want to see Yeb Bush "politically" destroy Ted Cruz in Florida.

So I (on my own), later helped by many, many great folks, organized the successful "Ted Cruz Florida Grassroots Leadership Conference" (Orlando, 18 July 2015)

Why ?

To build a great statewide county-by-county Ground Game for Ted Cruz in Florida ... NINE months before the 15 March 2016 GOP Florida Presidential Primary.



Can Donald Trump win the various GOP Primaries without a "magnificent" ground game ? Probably not.

But everyone is sure as hell watching.

The problem is that "if" Donald Trump does poorly in Iowa, there won't be enough time (as measured in MONTHS) to build an effective ground game in the other primary states.

Ted Cruz knows this.


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30 posted on 11/08/2015 10:23:48 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Patton@Bastogne
The GOPe hates Trump. They fear Cruz. They will do everything they can to prevent either one (Trump or Cruz) from getting the nomination.
31 posted on 11/08/2015 10:33:39 AM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: moehoward

Yeah—quite possibly.


32 posted on 11/08/2015 10:43:31 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Pollster1

I agree with everything you said except your statement about Cruz not being a reliable conservative. Is that b/c of his support for the H1B visas? I also think it would have to be Trump/Cruz not the other way around because Trump would not accept the VP slot. He’s either it or he’s out. I’m 100% Cruz.


33 posted on 11/08/2015 10:47:05 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: Parley Baer

Totally agree!


34 posted on 11/08/2015 10:49:30 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: deport

We are not at two yet. Yes, Pataki, Graham, Jindal, Santorum, Christie, Huckabee and Paul are gone. None have a prayer to be the nominee or the VP. They don’t have the resources. They don’t get the attention. They are simply not viable.

Kasich and Fiorina are only in it as VP candidates. And frankly Rubio, and Bush seem to be similarly situated. All of these four are likely to provide something as VPs. They would all be willing to stand in the shadows for several years. They would all bring some voters, Florida, Ohio, or women. And they all have a moderating stance.

That being said, nobody is really going to give a lot of money for someone’s VP challenge. Your not buying real power. So, any of these people who don’t show some hope of winning, will be getting out when the money stops to flow.

Cruz is different. I am not sure what Cruz bring. He is liked by the right. He is my candidate. But he is not likely to sit in the shadows. And his state is Texas, which everyone hopes they already can count on. Cruz is likely to alienate as many or, more than he brings to the voting booth. The left is scared of Cruz. Just like Palin, he has been demonized on the left. And he will be used to scare independents more than he will solidify people on the right.

If I were a betting man, I would say that Trump picks Fiorina, Rubio or Kasich. Don’t get all upset about anyone he picks. The VPs only job is to help get the nominee elected. Thats it. The VP says nothing about the top of the ticket at all.

Carson may chose someone with Washington cred. Obama picked Biden because he was someone with Washington credibility. Not for me, but for many in the center left. Carson will need the same help. He may chose Kasich or Rubio, possibly even Bush. He is not likely to chose Cruz either. Insiders will trust Kasich and Rubio or Bush. And Carson really doesn’t need Fiorina. He just needs a little Washington cred to make him viable, like Reagan had Bush, or Clinton had Gore.

The GOPe faction believes that their numbers are split now. And that when the other candidates leave, their candidate will be left to get all those votes. I am not sure that is true. But Rubio and Bush backers assume that you can add the Polls from Rubio, Bush, Christie, Kasich and half the votes of Jindal, Santorum, Huckabee and Paul. And you get a number larger than Trump or Carson. That is why they are holding out. Each thinks if they can stay long enough they will be the recipient of the others loss.


35 posted on 11/08/2015 10:52:03 AM PST by poinq
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Donald Trump and Ted Cruz understand better than anyone that Ben Carson's role is to SPLIT the GOP Evangelical Christian vote.

Nonsense. This is just a bunch of anti-Carson gibberish. The guy ran because he thought he could win - mostly due to all the evangelicals that obviously backed him. There is no GOPe conspiracy to use Carson to split votes or anything else.

Much as I think Carson is an extremely bright and decent person, I do not believe he is Presidential material. He is simply getting the votes Huckabee would be getting plus the support of people that want an outsider that isn't Trump.

I am supporting Cruz as well btw. Your conspiracy theory is......well it's silly. I doubt the "establishment" even wanted Rubio to run. If they were really all about supporting Jeb, Rubio is a thorn in their side.

Jeb is unlikely to be the nominee at this point because he is a bad candidate. That would have become readily apparent no matter what other GOP candidates joined the race.

36 posted on 11/08/2015 11:16:29 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
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Well, we agree on a couple of thing ...

Time will tell on how this all turns out ...


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37 posted on 11/08/2015 11:19:12 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Lake Living
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I think that Donald Trump would accept a VP slot.

Wouldn't you ?

Even then, Donald Trump's political success would be "historic".

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38 posted on 11/08/2015 11:21:19 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: SaxxonWoods

;-)


39 posted on 11/08/2015 11:23:40 AM PST by asyouwish (Philippians 4:8)
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To: poinq

Interesting speculation about the VP should Trump be the nominee. But I’m not sure he
would go with someone from the candidate field. My guess would be someone well known from
the existing Senate/Gov or even non elected field that isn’t in the race.


40 posted on 11/08/2015 11:26:58 AM PST by deport
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