Posted on 10/06/2015 1:40:33 PM PDT by MichCapCon
The new Dearborn school district superintendent Glenn Maleyko says he is worried about losing his best teachers.
Maleyko told the Dearborn Press and Guide there will be a teacher shortage, and the newspaper claims the teacher pay scale is lower than what many professionals earn with a bachelor’s degree.
But the U.S. Census data doesn’t back that claim up.
The median salary for a person with a bachelor’s degree is $50,450, according to the American Community Survey 2014 put out by the U.S. Census.
A teacher with a bachelor’s degree in the Dearborn school district and nine years of experience would earn $52,163. The average salary of a Dearborn schoolteacher was $62,266 in 2013-14; according to the Michigan Department of Education. (The average includes many teachers who get paid more because they have more than bachelor's degrees.)
University of Michigan economist Don Grimes said that American Community Survey includes all workers, including part-time workers.
“If you had full-time equivalent wages it would raise everyone's wage a bit, but would not change the story in a fundamental way,” Grimes said. “But, I think your basic question is, are wages for college grads really that low? And the answer to that is yes. One-half of the people with a bachelor's degree (but not a graduate or professional degree) earn less than $50,450 and one-half earn more in the U.S.”
“But it’s even worse in Ingham (median for a bachelor’s degree is $40,225) and Isabella (median for a bachelor’s degree is $41,027),” Grimes said. “There are a lot of people out there in the world making a relatively small salary, even relatively well educated people.”
In Ingham County, a teacher with a bachelor’s with four years of experience in the Lansing school district would earn $43,386 a year. In Isabella County, a Mt. Pleasant school district teacher with a bachelor’s and six years experience would earn $41,693 a year.
School choice will bust the union scum out of existence and save the children!
DUH! No kidding!
College degree used to mean a lot more. Now they hand out college degrees to anybody.
For 9 months of work, don’t forget.
Includes part time people. Does that include the teachers who work 8am - 2:30pm with a lunch and a free period and get two weeks off at Christmas, a week in the spring and ten weeks off in the summer. That sounds like part time.
Not saying that teachers aren't fairly (or over-) paid, just saying that there are lies, dammed lies, and statistics.
“Educators” “work” only about 8 months each year. They get “snow days” and “training days”, in addition. Education has become a scam from teacher pay, teacher benefits and teacher pensions. Then there is the school superintendent racket where they milk the taxpayers for high pay, extreme benefits and golden parachutes. When a superintendent fails, they move to another community where they parasitically attack the community. What a racket.
Politicians using other peoples’ money to placate union demands is not democratic. Nor is the trump card public sector educator unions have when it comes to families that need both spouses working and can’t afford nor arrange for kinder care when the gremlins should normally be in school. It’s just not right. It’s not the industrial revolution anymore when workers rights were non existent and unions really meant something. Nowadays, it’s just a love fest between unions and politicians. They both get something but the little guy get’s screwed.
Don’t forget about the others that scam the taxpayer for higher pay like:
media coordinators
librarians
assistant superintendents
principals
coaches
dietitians (now really, how much does the screwl menu chage?)
finance managers
superintendents
superintendents
superintendents and more superintendents... the biggest grafters of them all.
We got by just fine with one principal that ran the screwl with an steady but very firm hand, a secretary, teachers, cooks and janitor. It was a big grade screwl.
After that I went to an even smaller screwl and then the edumacation gig grew a lot by the time I got to high screwl. For some it was quite lucrative... especially in retirement with near unparalleled benefits and early benefits. Wards of the state in their mid-50s.
In Los Angeles they get approx $80,000 and a nice fat pension and get to keep their job after 50% of the students end up not able to read their diploma at graduation.
She makes a little over 50k but has her master's degree with dual certification and will add a third certification by the end of the year. One of her existing certifications is in special ed (which is what she was hired for).
I should add she is NOT union and not tenure track.
Actually it’s 180 days, out of a possible 251 workdays for everyone else.
Here in Louisiana, it’s 185 days, IIRC. I’m about to attend a local school board meeting and watch while they piss away several million in the space of an hour.
Salaries are meaningless without knowing the geographical location. Some years ago, a headhunter told me he could double my present salary with a job opening he had in the area of San Jose, California. I told him he’d have to triple it if I was going to keep the same standard of living after taxes.
Those who can, DO!
Those who can’t, teach...
My daughter had a job as a counselor for a local juvenile detention facility with decent pay and bennies. As long as they were working with local girls, mostly those who were runaways, prostitutes, casual drug users and the like, she enjoyed the job and was doing a lot of good.
The facility was growing a great reputation for turning kids lives around and getting kids out of the place and into a normal life.
Then one of the smart@$$ed MBAs running the place thought it would be good marketing to advertise to Philadelphia and other cancerous areas of our Commonwealth who then started sending in hard-core drug dealers, hoodlums and gang bangers.
My daughter and several others like her had no choice but to leave because (a)it became an unsafe work environment and (b)they signed on as counselors, not prison guards.
Many times snow days are “:forgiven”. * 1/2 hours (with lunch break) isn’t a “long” day. Marking tests and entering grades takes how long...especially for a spec. ed. teacher? I still think they are for the most part overpaid and underworked. Also, their pensions are ridiculous.
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