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To: knarf
He's gonn'a tax the shit out of them

It is not immediately clear to me how the president of country A is going to tax the shit out of the citizens of country B because the president of the United States has no authority to exact taxes from citizens of his own country much less from citizens of another country. I know of no powers vested in the president by article 2 of the Constitution which permit him to do any such thing.

Candidate Trump is long on soundbites and short on substance.

If we are suggesting that a president Trump will act in a manner repugnant to the Constitution, I as a conservative will no doubt be joined by many other conservatives to oppose him. Conservatives, if nothing else, stand for the proposition that our fidelity to the Constitution is not situational. If we are suggesting that Trump will convince Congress to impose sanctions on Mexico until they capitulate and fund the wall, I point out that is politically unrealistic.

The reason the wall has not been built is because it is not wanted by anyone except the people of America. The president flatly does not want it, the Democrats in Congress will not stand for it, the Republicans in Congress will conspire with the Democrats.The forces that oppose controlling immigration do so because it advantages them. Those forces are very strong or the wall would have been built long ago.

Now, exactly how is president Trump "gonn'a tax the shit out of them"?


50 posted on 08/10/2015 10:38:40 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
The magnificence of FR is the presence of cooler heads in hotter climes

Y'GOT me there, Nate.

60 posted on 08/10/2015 10:49:15 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: nathanbedford
The reason the wall has not been built is because it is not wanted by anyone except the people of America. The president flatly does not want it, the Democrats in Congress will not stand for it, the Republicans in Congress will conspire with the Democrats.The forces that oppose controlling immigration do so because it advantages them. Those forces are very strong or the wall would have been built long ago.

Congress passed the Secure Fence Act in 2006. It was overwhelmingly approved by Congress (just before the midterms. Hillary and Obama voted for it. However over time the Act was amended led by Kay Bailey Hutchison. There was a lot of pressure from US border towns in Texas to keep the free flow of Mexicans in and out of the country. The Mexicans came across to buy things helping the local economies. Mexico is our third largest trading partner after Canada and China.

Obviously, Mexico has no interest in securing its Northern border like it does its Southern border. Mexico facilitates migrants from Central America to transit Mexico and enter the US, like it did when the kids surged across our border.

What Trump is suggesting is that the Mexicans take control of their side of the border. The US does have leverage if it wants to force Mexico to secure its Northern border with the US. Trade and visa policies are some of the ways we can put pressure on Mexico to get what we want. Mexicans in the US send remittances of $23.6 billion annually to Mexico, which eclipses their oil revenue from the US. We can make it difficult to send much of the money back.

Every year close to $125 billion a year is sent from the US to the rest of world, primarily from the 41.5 million foreign born in this country. That money is not spent in the US economy.


69 posted on 08/10/2015 10:59:40 PM PDT by kabar
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To: nathanbedford
" has no authority to exact taxes from citizens of his own country "

It's called Tariff by Executive.

"That batch of Tomatoes is rotten"

Those motors were sourced from defective steel" etc.

If you think a POTUS cannot stop the import of anything he damn well leases, you probably thin a POTUS cannot open the border to anything he damn well pleases.

We have created a king, and there's no going back except by arms.

75 posted on 08/10/2015 11:13:05 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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