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To: gleeaikin

Interesting series of books by James Churchward. His position was that in the Pacific there was a large land mass called MU. It was from MU that man settle the rest of the planet with the original travellers called Maya. They went west and east, through the Americas and Asia. They settled Egypt, founded Atlantis and even Scandinavia. They extended through India (original Ayrans) into China and beyond. Of course a great geologic upheaval destroyed Mu some thousands of years ago. Interesting read.

Mu had a population of some 64 million at its height around 50K years ago or more. It had a religion that worshiped a one god or deity that was represented by the Sun, although they did not worship the Sun, but used it as a representation of the Supreme Creator.

The Temples in the Americas were supposedly built by the folks from Mu and in the case of Mexico, were destroyed several times by cataclysm as the mountain ranges came to be. Same in North America and in South America. Mountain ranges in these areas came to be some 17 thousand years ago or so. Veliokovsy (sp) had the same theory regarding mountain ranges in the new world.

We still have much to learn regarding pre-historic times. Methinks that man was not actually a stone age knuckle dragger often depicted by modern man. In fact Churchyard writes that man devolved from his higher plateau due to the loss of Mu as the survivors tried to cope without tools. His theory was that the cruder the tool showed that the civilization was more in likely a higher society. Only after time of “living in the wilds” without their modern tools did arrow heads, etc get better made.


22 posted on 08/09/2015 1:24:29 AM PDT by abigkahuna (Here now and whatever....)
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To: abigkahuna

Signs of advanced civilzations before Egypt. Atlantis myth might be based on something real. There is much we do not know about the ancient world.


23 posted on 08/09/2015 2:13:42 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: abigkahuna; SunkenCiv; blam; All

I found Velikovski’s books very interesting 4 decades ago. We now have pretty good evidence from Firestone et al that there was a major boloid event in north America and the northern hemisphere that could have caused evidence he mentioned. Things like great tangles of mixed skeletons in northern Canada or Alaska, flash frozen mammoths in Siberia with buttercups in their belly.

I have traveled in Mexico and Central America and studied archaeology and anthropology in Mexico. It is highly likely that the various pyramids there were built by various native civilizations running from about 1500 BC to around 1400 AD. A number of their pyramids are in areas with no mountain ranges. It is also possible that people from Eurasia might have visited and had some influence. The negroid heads of the Olmec suggest to me that Phonecian (sp) ships with Negro mercenary soldiers may have landed on the Mexican coast during the Sea People period (12 to 1300 BC). I can imagine a strong, illiterate Negro warrior taking power there and with his Negro associates taking power for a few centuries. They knew about pyramids and monumental sculpture of rulers. So far as the mountain ranges age, they were built hundreds of millions of years ago. In some cases they are still growing but already well up there long, long ago.

I agree that man has probably had more developed periods than we currently know. We have not explored the sea coasts and river mouths below 300 feet where ice age civilized people would have lived. We also do not know what level of development might have been reached prior to other major ice ages. Primitive humanoids have been found in caves and similar areas, but again, what was down near the sea coasts or below sea level which has probably seen the most destruction or been totally buried by sediments. Much exploration awaits new methods.


24 posted on 08/09/2015 2:42:01 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: abigkahuna

But where was Mu? It is only a theory that it existed, and only another theory that some “great geologic upheaval destroyed Mu”.

However, the area from the Korean peninsula to Indonesia was above sea level during most of the Great Ice Age - and speculation is that millions of people lived there during that era.

When the first of the glacial melting began some 16,500 years ago, this vast swath slowly began to be covered by water. Then, at some point the melting rate increased dramatically, rapidly inundating much of the area. People fled, undoubtedly panicked, millions upon millions must have drowned, other millions died before they found a safe haven, still others fought and died over ownership of those safe havens; the survivors may have gone on to produce the remnant cultures we see today.

Mu, if it existed as the modern theory posits, would have existed there. Did it have all the technology attributed to it now? Who knows? They or their descendants would have settled Sumeria long before the Old Kingdom came to be in Egypt.

One thing we do know about the gods of the Egyptian Old Kingdom was that they were never thought of as real entities, but, as you mention, as symbolizing or representing a force in Nature or the Universe.

You are very correct: we do have much to learn regarding pre-historic times. But I fear, the prospect will be more difficult than it appears on the surface. We lost most of classical western civilization during the Great Islamic Onslaught (628-728 AD) under Mohammad and his Disciples when they destroyed everything they found which was not in the koran.

So what we find has to be, first recognized for what it is, then interpreted, rather than that something prove its existence from a written account. Then, that interpretation, to be accurate, must reflect the culture that created it. And therein lies the rub. The Egyptian Old Kingdom, lying some 5,000 years in the past, is so different, so alien to today’s mind set, that attempting to imagine what an individual thought in that culture about “life, the Universe. and everything” is nearly impossible.

How then are we to see, to recognize, to think about, something even older, something from 10,000 years prior to the Egyptian Old Kingdom?

The video below was made by a woman exploring in Rumania, I think. I don’t know if what she sees and finds is right, wrong, or just pareidolia, but it gives the sense of how does a person today think about a culture and the things made by a people so old that words fail.

Neanderthal Culture, Faces and the Carpathian Sphinx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI7IQQLqO6Y


26 posted on 08/09/2015 3:57:10 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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