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To: DoodleDawg

Someone writes this stuff, puts it on the Internet, and from that point, it is regarded by many as fact.

I respect the confederacy and the men who fought for it. And that includes their flag.

It doesn’t mean I have to support slavery to take that stance.

I have heard it said time and time again that the Civil War was not fought over slavery, but over states rights, but it doesn’t hold water for me.

They were fighting over their rights as states to allow slavery, which is much the same as fighting over slavery. If there had been no slavery, there would have been no civil war, at least not at that time.


32 posted on 07/11/2015 11:07:21 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.Buy into it,)
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To: rlmorel
They were fighting over their rights as states to allow slavery, which is much the same as fighting over slavery. If there had been no slavery, there would have been no civil war, at least not at that time.

I assume you are familiar with the term "ex post facto"?

The Union was NOT fighting to abolish slavery, they were going to let it continue just as before.

You are trying to apply an ex post facto justification for the Union going to war when they had no intention of stopping slavery.

An intellectually honest man would admit the Union didn't invade to stamp out slavery, and that they fully intended to do nothing about it when the war started.

So let's say the South did secede to preserve slavery. The Union didn't care about slavery! They cared about preventing Independence. They would have kept slavery if the Southern states would just give up on the idea of independence, so the real sticking point over the war was Independence, and nothing else.

How about a little moral disgust directed at the people who lied after the fact about why they fought?

50 posted on 07/11/2015 11:51:19 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: rlmorel
I respect the confederacy and the men who fought for it. And that includes their flag.

Many people do, and I don't have a problem with that. But articles like this, as filled as it is with half-truths, un-truths, and complete lies, does the Confederate cause no service.

52 posted on 07/11/2015 11:58:01 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: rlmorel

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104 posted on 07/11/2015 2:01:52 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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