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Let’s Hope Machines Take Our Jobs: We Want Wealth, Not Jobs
The Market Oracle ^ | June 11, 2015 | Peter St. Onge

Posted on 07/09/2015 9:13:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Olog-hai

See? “above” ... what is “above”? At one time this was understood quite literally. How is it understood now?


41 posted on 07/09/2015 11:20:53 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

Depending on the person, perhaps black helicopters, or then again the legendary FSM. That’s if one expands to “help from above”.


42 posted on 07/09/2015 11:24:41 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

You’re dodging. What do you see “above”?


43 posted on 07/09/2015 11:28:54 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Jonty30

So that’s equivalent to $45,000 per day.
I’ll drive one of my Lamborghini every day.

I’ll take the job, based on the fact you’re a FReeper, and are probably a decent person.


44 posted on 07/09/2015 11:30:53 PM PDT by rikkir (Anyone still believe the 8/08 Atlantic cover wasn't 100% accurate?)
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To: dr_lew

Are you talking about with eyes or something else? Ain’t a dodge if one explores all possibilities, is it?


45 posted on 07/09/2015 11:31:53 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

This is the quintessential dodge. How to believe without believing.


46 posted on 07/10/2015 1:15:39 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: varyouga
When it all becomes unlimited, there is no fight.

Really? Who's going to just give it away? Someone has to start the process. Who will do that for free.

This has to be the most absurd article I've read in years.

47 posted on 07/10/2015 2:43:55 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the kind of economic thought that generally surfaces late at night in the dorm after a three hour bong-a-thon, featuring some potent green bud. Normally it is followed with cheesecake and eight hours of sleep. In the morning it is forgotten.


48 posted on 07/10/2015 4:40:22 AM PDT by Wingy
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To: raybbr

You would pick anything you desire like fruit growing in an endless orchard.

Our orchard will be the vast expanse of the entire Universe and all of its elements. Infinity as we perceive it.

And beyond...


49 posted on 07/10/2015 5:23:42 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Olog-hai; dr_lew

We deceive and fight due to scarcity of materials, space and time.

Eliminate the scarcity for everyone and people will see again what is important


50 posted on 07/10/2015 5:33:19 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: raybbr

Also meant to say that the process will not start for “free”. People will initially develop these technologies for a greater piece of this pie

But eventually these technologies will make things so automated and abundant that the pie becomes infinite.

I’m talking to the point where people can create and terraform entire mini planets for themselves and generate any environment they like any time they like with self-replicating molecular machines.

Sure, today it seems crazy and maybe dangerous. But think how drastically the picture changed in less than 100 years with relatively simple technology. We still have people on this Earth who live like apes


51 posted on 07/10/2015 6:18:58 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

Not true at all. Deception and fighting went on even during the years of plenty and excess. Human nature is not dependent at all upon material abundance; in fact, such abundance makes us forget about God quicker.


52 posted on 07/10/2015 7:49:12 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blue collar skilled trades are the future, because it is too complex for machines and too many people don’t want to do the work.

The Great Shift Toward Automation and the Future of Employment
http://tamarawilhite.hubpages.com/hub/The-Great-Shift-and-the-Future-of-Employment


53 posted on 07/10/2015 7:50:12 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Olog-hai

We have NOT had true plenty and excess for all of recorded history. Endless food, land and perfect climate for ALL. Such a concept is so far removed from our current view of the timeline that we cannot even comprehend it. Yet, every culture STILL has stories passed down from the times of “Eden”.

We simply ran out of such perfect places on this planet. Not enough land and fruit for us to simply frolic in nature without using labor/force. Then our minds slowly evolved to fight over these things for hundreds of thousands of years. Through thousands of wars and genocides fought over land and food.

But once you strip that all away and make all we fight for irrelevant, you see Love and the sharing of it is the true primary desire of man. It will all re-emerge in a future chapter


54 posted on 07/10/2015 8:28:22 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: rikkir
who do you get to do the really bad jobs? Why would they want to?

The really bad jobs will pay two cents an hour instead of one. Capitalism isn't eliminated under the author's vision -- the numbers just get smaller.

55 posted on 07/10/2015 8:32:42 AM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: varyouga

Yeah, sure. Marx said the same thing in 1848.


56 posted on 07/10/2015 8:36:50 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Marx lived in a struggling agrarian society and had little comprehension of what is possible. Just like all of humanity for hundreds of thousands of years.

The entire Universe will eventually become our new orchard, our new Eden. Infinity

And then beyond...


57 posted on 07/10/2015 8:44:16 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

With whose help, now? Not humanity by itself. You still don’t seem to understand greed.


58 posted on 07/10/2015 8:50:30 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Jonty30
"However, how do I buy this fantastic little machine that almost certainly will not simply be given to me when I don’t have the capital to buy it because my job has been eliminated."

If everything is cheap so it the fantastic little machine. It's just another thing.

59 posted on 07/10/2015 8:57:39 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Olog-hai

We are on the verge of an unprecedented understanding of the Higher Power, the theory of everything, infinity, eternity, unity etc. Known as “God” for most of history

So yes, it is all coming together.

Despite the forces of evil and doubt...


60 posted on 07/10/2015 9:07:03 AM PDT by varyouga
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