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Let’s Hope Machines Take Our Jobs: We Want Wealth, Not Jobs
The Market Oracle ^ | June 11, 2015 | Peter St. Onge

Posted on 07/09/2015 9:13:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Oberon

That’s the premise of Ayn Rand’s novel Anthem.


21 posted on 07/09/2015 10:03:27 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
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To: Oberon
> Question: What did socialists use for light before they used candles? Answer: Electric light bulbs.

LOL...noted for future use...

22 posted on 07/09/2015 10:03:55 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Olog-hai

for what purpose? if there is unlimited land, food and stuff


23 posted on 07/09/2015 10:08:39 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nice theory but idle minds would create a lot of destruction.


24 posted on 07/09/2015 10:14:27 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You mean like Wall-E where everyone is fat and flying around on their floating chairs.


25 posted on 07/09/2015 10:15:09 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: varyouga

Control.


26 posted on 07/09/2015 10:15:35 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: dr_lew

I said “capital” referring to how time, land and materials are monetized based on the highest bidder willing to exchange. apologize if used incorrectly. if these things became unlimited, it would eliminate that system.

that system at least partially encourages innovation for greater power in the marketplace. sometimes at the expense of others and natural resources.

say you eliminated the marketplace entirely and people had all the free time to innovate purely out of the goodness of their hearts. do you not believe that MORE good things will be created then?

of course I also do understand that in our present culture of laziness, endless wasteful consumption and violence, being unlimited would lead to self destruction...


27 posted on 07/09/2015 10:18:41 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: Olog-hai

why? if everyone can have their own land, their own stuff and choose who to live with


28 posted on 07/09/2015 10:19:48 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Like the Jetsons where george just shows up at work and presses one button....


29 posted on 07/09/2015 10:22:01 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

> Comments?

There are two possibilities, and it applies to this scenario in the extreme as it applies to worker efficiency generally.

1. Everyone is freed from the duties of labor to go produce value that doesn’t involve drudging along at some job, whether that’s burger-flipping or predictive analytics, and goes on to be the person they were always meant to be before someone told them they had to get a ‘job.’

2. Given a chance, most people revert to sloth, and the people in control of the machines that create production of actual value try to figure out how to get rid of the population that is neither good for the jobs taken over by machines or anything else.


30 posted on 07/09/2015 10:40:32 PM PDT by No.6
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To: varyouga
say you eliminated the marketplace entirely and people had all the free time to innovate purely out of the goodness of their hearts. do you not believe that MORE good things will be created then?

Are you joking? Who could believe that?

31 posted on 07/09/2015 10:42:00 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

someone that does everything out of the goodness of their heart...


32 posted on 07/09/2015 10:49:31 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: dr_lew
And just to make a further comment ...

say you eliminated the marketplace entirely and people had all the free time to innovate purely out of the goodness of their hearts. do you not believe that MORE good things will be created then?

Don't you see the paradox in "say you eliminated the market place" ? This posits totalitarianism. Goodness of heart would not be in the picture.

33 posted on 07/09/2015 10:51:40 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


34 posted on 07/09/2015 10:55:39 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: varyouga
someone that does everything out of the goodness of their heart...

Don't we all? I always say, I have a heart as big as the galaxy, and that's the way I feel, but perhaps we overestimate ourselves.

But aside from that, haven't you ever run up against someone who was perhaps less expansive than yourself? More selfish? It's a sudden downer.

35 posted on 07/09/2015 10:58:55 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The proper word to describe this essay is “sophomoric.”


36 posted on 07/09/2015 11:00:09 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: varyouga

That’s the last thing the control freaks on the left want.

And “choose who to live with”? God is real, you know.


37 posted on 07/09/2015 11:00:57 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: varyouga
That would be whom, exactly?
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

— Jeremiah 17:9
Very few men or women buck that trend, and they cannot do it without help from above.
38 posted on 07/09/2015 11:03:24 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mmm...I dunno. If machines were to take over all of our jobs, and meet every whim at the touch of a button, I wonder what would happen to man’s work ethic? Our material needs would be completely taken care of, but where would the challenge be? A few would take advantage of the opportunity to expand knowledge and perhaps accomplish things never dreamed of before, but I suspect most of us would become the ultimate couch potatoes. Most of humanity could end up living idle, empty, and ultimately unsatisfying, lives.

To borrow from Captain Kirk from “This Side of Paradise”: “Maybe we weren’t meant for paradise. Maybe we were meant to fight our way through, struggle, claw our way up, scratch for every inch of the way. Maybe we can’t stroll to the music of the lute. We must march to the sound of drums.”


39 posted on 07/09/2015 11:14:58 PM PDT by DemforBush (Ex-Democrat, and NotforJeb. Just so we're clear.)
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To: rikkir

I will pay three cents a day, triple the author’s market rate, to come clean my toilet.

However, you must provide your own transportation.


40 posted on 07/09/2015 11:20:03 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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