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(vanity) Need SCSI controller solution for small-form-factor PC
self | 7/2/15 | NewJerseyJoe

Posted on 07/02/2015 10:16:33 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe

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To: taxcontrol; Paladin2

Curious — all of these (and similar) USB-to-SCSI devices have been discontinued. I wonder why??


41 posted on 07/02/2015 11:41:59 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: tacticalogic
if it will help your search, that is a 50pin scsi connector.

Stick with Adaptec for this stuff. Search google for adaptec scsi low profile external 50 pin. find PCI or PCI-e, (I'm not sure what slot you need).

I know, for instance, an ASC-29160LP would work for you, but I don't know what kind of slot you need to plug it into (PCI or PCI-e). If you only have PCI-e, that won't fit.

If you aren't sure, you can go to http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19?c=&l=&s= and enter the service tag number off of the machine and everything you need to know about that machine is there, even the configuration tab on the page will show you what the machine was when new.

If you are going to buy a used card from ebay, make SURE 1) the card has windows7 or 8 drivers (whichever you need) available on the mfg website. 2) Make SURE the low-profile bracket comes with it. Most cards come with 2 brackets depending on the height of the slot you have. 3) Make sure it is for the correct type of PCI slot in your computer. since you probably already have the cable, you are covered there. Good luck

42 posted on 07/02/2015 11:54:10 AM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I replied to the wrong person describing what HE had, not what you had. Disregard my post because I am not clear on what type of SCSI connector you need. Here is a link to a decent guide that will help you sort it out: http://www.ramelectronics.net/scsi_connectors.aspx


43 posted on 07/02/2015 11:58:17 AM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: FunkyZero
My SCSI card and my scanner cable are 25-pin (DB25).

My problem is finding an (affordable) SCSI card with a low-profile bracket. My existing card has a full-height bracket and will not fit with this computer.

I'm half-seriously considering snipping off the rest of the bracket to make the card fit.    :-o

44 posted on 07/02/2015 12:08:57 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: tacticalogic

Sorry if I was imprecise in my previous response. What I meant was the height of the bracket, and if the connecter is more-or-less centered in the bracket.


45 posted on 07/02/2015 12:10:01 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

The simple answer is that SCSI has fallen out of favor and is not being used in newer machines. By comparison, it is old, fat (size) and lazy (slow). As SCSI machines are no longer produced, there is less and less of a market for the parts to maintain the solution.


46 posted on 07/02/2015 12:38:28 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Toss the scanner..


47 posted on 07/02/2015 12:40:09 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Don’t laugh, I’ve done similar things. Most of them have just a couple of small screws holding the bracket on and I totally remove them. You will need to make something for the inside of the case though so the card doesn’t get pushed up out of it’s slot when you seat the cable. the best approach is usually making a shim just thick enough to clamp the top of the case against the top of the card. cardboard and tape work just fine, I must say. Just make sure to not block important airflow paths if applicable.


48 posted on 07/02/2015 12:48:03 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

You can pickup a all in one printer/scanner for legal size for about 230 bucks or so depending on brand and features.

They are about 4X the cost of a letter size due to the fact that it’s a smaller market for them.

Trying to stuff a card that was never intended for your motherboard could be done I suppose with a bunch of re-engineering, but I seriously doubt that the program will run on win 7, even if you get the interface to work and I doubt anyone ever wrote a updated program because the old bed scanners are way obsolete.

Junk it....or risk damaging your new box....I used to do builds, and I would not touch that with a ten foot pole.


49 posted on 07/02/2015 12:49:42 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
New scanners with adequate quality and sw/hw compatible with new computers are cheap. The USB 2 SCSI units were relatively expensive and low volume back in the day. There also used to be some ISA and PCI card expansion boxes back in the day that maybe could he located and made to function.

See (search) the article about what some guy had to do with hw/sw to get his Apple II? computer to connect to the net. It was amazing what can be done to get devices to communicate that were never built that way. Another alternative is to by a used computer of the right Hw/Sw config and dedicate that to your favorite scanner. The first thing I learned about PCs was I needed 2. One to tinker with and one to use to learn how to fix the one I had screwed up. Too bad life is so short....

50 posted on 07/02/2015 12:57:57 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Sounds like the old computer works. Find a place for it and the scanner and network a folder for scan transfers.


51 posted on 07/02/2015 1:00:19 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Dremel Tool Time


52 posted on 07/02/2015 1:08:27 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

You must have some pci express slots. Have you thought about buying a pci express scsi card?


53 posted on 07/02/2015 1:10:39 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: tacticalogic

Ok I’m confused about what you have. Can you give the Dell model number or service tag? That would make it a breeze to look up the specs and port availabilty.


54 posted on 07/02/2015 1:14:19 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: Woodman
Dell Optiplex 760 Small Form Factor Desktop

I didn't buy the refurb from Amazon, but this is the PC. (I have more RAM and a much larger HDD than the one shown.)

55 posted on 07/02/2015 1:29:51 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

When the idiots at TxDOT bought standard HDMI cards to go into small form factor PC’s we found plenty of the short replacement parts to move the cards to but just opted for cutting and bending the standard ones to to fit. Just use one of the “blanks” for an example. Primitive, yes but cheap and functional.


56 posted on 07/02/2015 3:24:03 PM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

It’s a full-height, half-length card.


57 posted on 07/02/2015 3:45:10 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

What o was suggesting is to go to dells site. I looked and there is extensive docu!mentation on those pc’s. If you have a service tag, you can get the exact config and specifications. I suspect it has PCIe slots. Since it is a business ess pc I would
Suspect they are standard size. I think you may be able to buy a PCIe card to solve your issue.


58 posted on 07/02/2015 4:23:39 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: Woodman

Hi... as I wrote in the original post, the cards are expensive — a couple of hundred dollars. And as I wrote in a subsequent comment, I’ve been out of work for a while. My choices are (A) find a low-cost solution or (B) no solution at all, i.e., keep the old PC in another room with the scanner hooked up.


59 posted on 07/02/2015 6:03:46 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Before you chase too far down the SCSI card path: Do you have Win7/64 drivers for the scanner in question?
60 posted on 07/02/2015 6:12:09 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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