Posted on 06/06/2015 6:52:09 AM PDT by JoeProBono
By trigger slap do you mean a tendency to pinch
your finger between the trigger and finger guard?
I had one that did that.
Not to mention someone could be killed by the
flying BRASS. Yeowww!
Hell of a round, would like a survival rifle in
that caliber.
“Hell of a round, would like a survival rifle in
that caliber.”
Don’t know much about the Kel Tech Sub 2000 but something like it in that round would be great.
Ballistics Information:
•Muzzle Velocity: 1722 fps
•Muzzle Energy: 560 ft. lbs.
I love Hickok45.
I could watch his reloading videos all day.
Here’s one of my favorites: Setting up the range.....and then blowing things away!
https://youtu.be/WEtosDa5LMU
Yup.
The guy’s a stud.
(And my hair is longer than his Son’s -I’ve told him that, too.)
MUAAHAHAHAA!!!
That TNoutdoors9 M1 Carbine at 200 yards is priceless! My little Rockola can do that too, except I can no loner see the targets that far away using the peep sights.
Novelty my friend....pure folly. Like my 460 Weatherby Mag chambered Ruger No 1 Tropical......WTF was I thinking......:o) I tried the .22TCM and the .224 Boz..... Jamamatic expensive POS crapola.
All fun but ya want a modern version of the 7.62x25 go 357Sig reloads or stay old school with the CZ52 and the 7.62x25. Ammos cheaper but my Glock 31 and Sig 229 loves the 357sig caliber....been packing the Glock 31 for past 10 years or more..... 125gr Speer Gold Dot Hollow Point commercial an a reload the reminds me of old SuperVel go fast fodder....
The 7.62x25 does have more punch if yer targets decide to Kevlar up before they do the home invasion thang at oh dark thirty...
I like the vz52 [and most Czech hardware] but found that they can be a little fussy as to bullet shape. And I like seating pointed-nose 110-grain projectiles in the 7,62x25 cartridge, something I've played with since my days in Memphis around Y2K when a Mauser broomhandle was my car gun [loaded rifles and shotguns were a no-no in Tennessee then, but the broomie was legally a *pistol*] as well as .30 carbine tracer projectiles and saboted .30/.224 bullets, some with red and others with green-painted noses. Oh yes, my TTC Tok *The Reaper* happily digests them all.
And, Tokarevs being nice and flat, it makes a dandy Sumertime under T-shirt handgun, with extra mags on my ankle rig.
Why, yes, he does!
Indeed.
Right here you go. These folks know what they're doing with the Cz52.
I picked up a Romanian TTC last year and I love it. My daughter likes it better than my 9mm — less recoil, smaller “handprint” that she can hold easier.
Plus, you can start your campfires with the fireball it creates!
Someone (I think China) built a Sten copy in that caliber.
Sort of. The Canadians built a great many Stens at the Canadian Long Branch Arsenal during WWII, the mass quantities getting the economies of scale down to the point that the seven magazines issued with each gun cost more to make than the guns themselves. Since the Chinese [then fighting the Japs] were also recipients of Canadian Bren guns [in the German 7,92x57mm caliber] and Inglis-manufactured Browning GP *Hi-Power* handguns, it's hardly surprising that they received a largish number of 9mm Stens as well.
After Chairman Mao's successful revolution and consolidation of power after WWII had ended, the Red Chinese went into fairly large-scale production of the Soviet 7,62x25 caliber PPSh submachine, which they designated type 50, and of the Soviet PPS 43, Chinese designation type 54, and went into large-scale production of 7,62x25mm Tokarev ammunition. Saving their stocks of 9mm parabellum ammunition for the existing Browning GP handguns, which were a bit largish for Chinese hands, the Chinese also went into production of the TT33 Tokarev pistol. Accordingly, the leftover Sten guns got new barrels in 7,62x25, since the Tokarev round would fit-barely-into a 9mm Sten magazine. The *TokaStens* were encountered by US troops during the Korean War, as the Chinese quickly issued the PPSH and PPS copies to their own troops, and offered the converted Stens to their fraternal socialist North Korean brothers. Eventually, many of the M1911A1 pistols captured from US forces after the initial Korean successes against the 24th Infantry's Japanese Constabulary forces were also converted to 7,62x25, and eventually some new Sten magazine wells were manufactured to adapt the Sten to the curved Soviet single-row feed PPSh magazine, since the double-column feed PPS 42/43 magazine would have required a new bolt. The PPSh copies thereafter supplied to the North Koreans were most frequently fed via the 71-round *Stalin's Guitar* drum, and converted Stens got either their original magazines or the curved 35-round PPSh magazines if their magazine well housings had been so refitted.
And then a decade or so later, as the French Indochina/ Vietnam conflict began to step up, many of the Chinese Stens were converted BACK into 9mm guns, since the Viet Minh/Viet Cong could capture ammunition from the French, who used the 9mm in their P.35/P.38PA50 handguns and the NAT49 and leftover wartime German MP40 smgs in the hands of the troops. And the leftover Sten barrels in 7,62x25mm?
They went to North Vietnamese arsenals, where they were used to transform captured French MAT49 and PPSh guns to the 7,62x25mm version favoured by the North Vietnamese, known as the K-50M, with the K-50M having the grip of an AK47/Type 50, the front sight and pushpull stock of the MAT 49 [a nice improvement over the donor PPSh] and a sahortened-lighter- PPSh barrel jacket.
Some of the NK/Chinese Stens and Vietnamese K-50Ms also turned up as late as the late 1970s in Rhodesia and Angola/Mozambique during the African insurrection wars, where the government forces mostly used 9mm para smg ammo and the guerillias had sources of 7,62x33 Tokarev ammunition from their Russian, Chinese and Czech friends.
Some of this hardware, once built, just about NEVER goes away.
You oughta hear one go off inside a tank with the hatches shut. Loud, even with a CVC helmat on.
Thanks for the history lesson. Lots of stuff there I didn’t know.
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