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No, you can't go back to the USSR!
Club Orlov ^ | Tuesday, May 19, 2015 | Club Orlov

Posted on 05/19/2015 7:11:15 AM PDT by OK Sun

One of the fake stories kept alive by certain American politicians, with the help of western media, is that Vladimir Putin (who, they vacuously claim, is a dictator and a tyrant) wants to reconstitute the USSR, with the annexation of Crimea as the first step.

Instead of listening to their gossip, let's lay out the facts.

The USSR was officially dissolved on December 26, 1991 by declaration №142-H of the Supreme Soviet. It acknowledged the independence of the 15 Soviet republics, and in the place of the USSR created a Commonwealth of Independent States, which hasn't amounted to much.

In the west, there was much rejoicing, and everyone assumed that in the east everyone was rejoicing as well. Well, that's a funny thing, actually, because a union-wide referendum held on March 17, 1991, produced a stunning result: with over 80% turnout, of the 185,647,355 people who voted 113,512,812 voted to preserve the USSR. That's 77.85%—not exactly a slim majority. Their wishes were disregarded.

Was this public sentiment temporary, borne of fear in the face of uncertainty? And if it were to persist, it would surely be a purely Russian thing, because the populations of all these other Independent States, having tasted freedom, would never consider rejoining Russia. Well, that's another funny thing: in September of 2011, fully two decades after the referendum, Ukrainian sociologists found out that 30% of the people there wished for a return to a Soviet-style planned economy (stunningly, 17% of these were young people with no experience of life in the USSR) and only 22% wished for some sort of European-style democracy. The wish for a return to Soviet-style central planning is telling: it shows just how miserable a failure the Ukraine's experiment with instituting a western-style market economy had become. ...

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: commieapologism; putincrimea; russia

1 posted on 05/19/2015 7:11:16 AM PDT by OK Sun
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To: OK Sun

If you allow corrupt crony-capitalism to flourish, sooner or later average people who feel they are getting the short end of the sick will grow disgusted and opt for Communism.

Should be a lesson in there for our politicians.


2 posted on 05/19/2015 7:14:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Agree. The author sounds more like a “wish-fulfillment, I-want-to-sound-like-the-reasonable-sage-who-quiets-the-silly-conspiracy-theories-of-the-rabble” type, here.

There’s an old adage in philosophy: “That which has happened before is therefore proven to be possible.” If the USSR formed in the past, it can form again (under whatever new name you like)... and it’s naive for anyone to think that “we’ve evolved so far that we’ll never go back” (think “Islam”), or “it’s far too popular to lose” (think “Julius Caesar”), or “it’s far too unpopular to happen” (think so-called “gay marriage”).


3 posted on 05/19/2015 7:25:59 AM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The old geo-politcal zone of the USSR is there for Putin's taking if he so wishes. The US and NATO will at best put up token resistance. Obama has signaled he is now flexible, meaning to me he does not have the will to live up to America's defense treaty commitments.
4 posted on 05/19/2015 7:30:11 AM PDT by buckalfa (I am feeling much better now.)
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To: buckalfa

The old USSR is DEAD—But Russia still lives. I believe Putin is really trying to re-establish Tsarist Imperialist designs. With himself as Tsar without all the pagentry and symbolism. Communism was a theory that a utopia could be built on earth disregarding human nature. It failed and had to be enforced with a gun and fear. This new creature is more Capitalist (croney capitalism —near feudalist) but gives people a few more rights (as long as they are OKed by Putin). Remember this—Communism is gone but Imperialism lives on.


5 posted on 05/19/2015 10:41:00 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: OK Sun
The USSR was officially dissolved on December 26, 1991 by declaration №142-H of the Supreme Soviet.

Putin made a point once that dissolution of USSR was not legal.

6 posted on 05/19/2015 5:01:32 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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