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To: DiogenesLamp

However Kapi’olani Hospital is a place to be born that is within the state of Hawaii.
Anyone challenging Barack Obama’s birth there is going to have to prove a birth somewhere else. Over the last seven years, no one has been able to do that.
And as state officials have said, Hawaii will issue a birth certificate saying that a person was born in Kenya or Indonesia, it will not issue a birth certificate showing that a person born in Kenya or Indonesia was born in Hawaii.


45 posted on 05/14/2015 12:52:48 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus
However Kapi’olani Hospital is a place to be born that is within the state of Hawaii. Anyone challenging Barack Obama’s birth there is going to have to prove a birth somewhere else. Over the last seven years, no one has been able to do that.

Well see here, this is where all the "brilliant legal minds" have it backwards. Constitutional law is supreme, and article II puts conditions on the Presidency, that if not met preclude someone from holding the office, and therefore ought to preclude them for entering the contest for it. These conditions trump state law.

The Constitution lays the groundwork such that the appellant need prove his legitimacy, not the other way around. But since our legal system and State governments are full of ignorant cowards, nobody would act upon the obvious requirements of the Constitution.

In fact, some state election officials tried and succeeded in arguing (I told you the courts are full of stupid people) that they cannot be compelled to enforce the law, but they also successfully asserted that they can enforce the law when they want to. (Roger Caballero.)

And as state officials have said, Hawaii will issue a birth certificate saying that a person was born in Kenya or Indonesia, it will not issue a birth certificate showing that a person born in Kenya or Indonesia was born in Hawaii. They can assert this claim, but we do not know if it is true. This doesn't even address the issue of what they put on the document when the Mother (or Grandmother) tells them something for which they have no actual proof.

Suppose someone is born in Canada, but the Mother (or Grandmother) tells Hawaiian officials that they were born "at home, in Hawaii".

What do Hawaiian officials put on the document? They will put down that the child was born in "Hawaii." Do not doubt it.

We have no proof that Hawaiian officials (or indeed the officials from any state) will tell the truth about a birth certificate, especially as regards an adopted child. As a matter of fact, we know they will absolutely not tell us the truth regarding an Adopted child.

50 posted on 05/14/2015 1:06:05 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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