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(1) Russian hybrid warfare: what are effects-based network operations and how to counteract them

(2) Partnership for victory. Ukraine is on fire.

(3) Lend lease plan 2015 for Ukraine at no cost!

(4) Ukraine low on ammo!

(5) Kwasniewski: EU leaders offered billions to Yanukovych. What did not know Polish ex-President and EU leaders.

(6) Russia has been preparing global war which starts in Ukraine: science fiction, alternative history, futurology and reality

(7) Aid for Ukraine and sanctions, not appeasement, the right answers to Russian aggression

(8) Ukraine under Invasion – Looting East and Dithering West

(9) United States and EU continue co-operation with Russia in space and missile industries. What implications does this have for Ukraine?

(10) Saving Ukraine’s Defense Industry

(11) A key to understanding Putin’s motives

1 posted on 05/07/2015 2:45:10 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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Article quote...”Ukraine is not a beggar”....

Yes it is...it can be nothing else now.


2 posted on 05/07/2015 2:48:55 AM PDT by caww
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‘The Russian Mothers Association has collected the names of thousands of Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine.’

Why not millions? It surely sounds more impressive.

And back to the subject what do you want to arm a nation which is probably the global leader of surplus arms trade with?


3 posted on 05/07/2015 2:54:20 AM PDT by Paid_Russian_Troll
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The Ukrainian government, the British government and others predict that ‘Mariupol’ will be the next city that the Donetsk People’s Republic will attempt to seize from Ukrainian control....the city isn’t as important to the separatists as it is to Ukraine for they would lose its largest port on the Azov Sea.... but it certainly is significant for Russia.... a land bridge with Crimea.


7 posted on 05/07/2015 3:04:39 AM PDT by caww
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20 years ago it was all Russia. It still is to most of us.

I’m more concerned about protecting Texas when it secedes from the rest of the country. I will back such a secession against the current American tyrant. But it is the same thing as Ukraine/Russia to me.

We have our own problems. I suggest those who feel the need to defend Ukraine should go there and enlist.


10 posted on 05/07/2015 3:30:10 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Edmond Huet is an engineer and armament expert who helped the Ukrainian government identify units and armaments used by the government against demonstrators in the EuroMaidan Revolution that drove President Viktor Yanukovych from power on Feb. 22, 2014. He lives in Kyiv.

Well I suggest you grab a gun and get on the front lines there Edmond. Maybe you should have considered the consequences of that Euromadian Coup when you were involved in it. You're lucky you not living West Russia now. Although who would want to takeover Ukraine.

27 posted on 05/07/2015 4:40:30 AM PDT by McGruff (What did Hillary know and when did she know it?)
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UPDATE INFO: http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/06/europe/ukraine-violence/

Inregards to suppling weapons.. shouldn’t liberals listen to FDR’s 1941 State of the Union! [excerpt]
“... New circumstances are constantly begetting new needs for our safety. I shall ask this Congress for greatly increased new appropriations and authorizations to carry on what we have begun.
I also ask this Congress for authority and for funds sufficient to manufacture additional munitions and war supplies of many kinds, to be turned over to those nations which are now in actual war with aggressor nations.

Our most useful and immediate role is to act as an arsenal for them as well as for ourselves. They do not need man power, but they do need billions of dollars worth of the weapons of defense. The time is near when they will not be able to pay for them all in ready cash. We cannot, and we will not, tell them that they must surrender, merely because of present inability to pay for the weapons which we know they must have.

I do not recommend that we make them a loan of dollars with which to pay for these weapons—a loan to be repaid in dollars.

I recommend that we make it possible for those nations to continue to obtain war materials in the United States, fitting their orders into our own program. Nearly all their materiel would, if the time ever came, be useful for our own defense.

Taking counsel of expert military and naval authorities, considering what is best for our own security, we are free to decide how much should be kept here and how much should be sent abroad to our friends who by their determined and heroic resistance are giving us time in which to make ready our own defense.

For what we send abroad, we shall be repaid within a reasonable time following the close of hostilities, in similar materials, or, at our option, in other goods of many kinds, which they can produce and which we need.

Let us say to the democracies: “We Americans are vitally concerned in your defense of freedom. We are putting forth our energies, our resources and our organizing powers to give you the strength to regain and maintain a free world. We shall send you, in ever-increasing numbers, ships, planes, tanks, guns. This is our purpose and our pledge.”

In fulfillment of this purpose we will not be intimidated by the threats of dictators that they will regard as a breach of international law or as an act of war our aid to the democracies which dare to resist their aggression. Such aid is not an act of war, even if a dictator should unilaterally proclaim it so to be.

When the dictators, if the dictators, are ready to make war upon us, they will not wait for an act of war on our part. They did not wait for Norway or Belgium or the Netherlands to commit an act of war.
Their only interest is in a new one-way international law, which lacks mutuality in its observance, and, therefore, becomes an instrument of oppression.

The happiness of future generations of Americans may well depend upon how effective and how immediate we can make our aid felt. No one can tell the exact character of the emergency situations that we may be called upon to meet. The Nation’s hands must not be tied when the Nation’s life is in danger.

We must all prepare to make the sacrifices that the emergency-almost as serious as war itself—demands. Whatever stands in the way of speed and efficiency in defense preparations must give way to the national need.”


46 posted on 05/07/2015 11:19:05 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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