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Oklahoma Repeals Knife ban that Balimore Police used to Arrest Freddy Grey
Gun Watch ^
| 2 May, 2015
| Dean Weingarten
Posted on 05/01/2015 1:28:38 PM PDT by marktwain
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posted on
05/01/2015 1:28:38 PM PDT
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marktwain
To: marktwain
Box cutters must be legal.
To: marktwain
Kind of sad that a Bowie Knife is not legal in Texas.
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posted on
05/01/2015 1:33:43 PM PDT
by
hadaclueonce
(It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
To: hadaclueonce
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posted on
05/01/2015 1:36:53 PM PDT
by
marktwain
To: marktwain
There were a couple on here earlier saying the knife was not illegal therefore the search was illegal. Now this report states they are illegal.
this is why everyone should not rush to judgment.
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posted on
05/01/2015 1:39:59 PM PDT
by
manc
(Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
To: manc
If you are referring to this posting, it shows that the knife was not illegal and it was not concealed.
What article are you referring to that shows that the knife was illegal?
The knife law in Balitmore, as in many places, is used as a police tool to arrest people that they want to arrest, but cannot find a good reason to do so.
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posted on
05/01/2015 1:44:20 PM PDT
by
marktwain
To: marktwain
I carry knives that look and operate just like that.
That is not a switchblade under any definition.
But, I sure wouldn’t want my back broken to fit someone’s idea of what is...
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posted on
05/01/2015 1:51:58 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
To: marktwain
In fact, I have a Freeper friend, who I gave a similar knife but, way superior to Fugly looking thing....
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posted on
05/01/2015 1:52:43 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
To: marktwain
Except that the police did not use any knife ban to arrest Gray. They lied, claiming that he had a switchblade. The City State’s Attorney said today that the knife on Gray is legal.
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posted on
05/01/2015 1:54:19 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
To: marktwain
To say that they are being "legalized" implies that the default presumption
is to be illegal; that the state tells us what is "allowed". Well said and worth repeating.
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posted on
05/01/2015 2:00:00 PM PDT
by
MaxMax
(Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
To: familyop
Exactly. But they thought they could get away with it because the existing law is impreciss. I would place a lot of money that in the last five years, dozens of arrests have been made under the law, and they are mostly invalid.
What usually happens, is after the person arrested is placed in jail for a few days or weeks, (because they do not have money for a bail bondman), or gets bailed out, they cop a plea to avoid trial.
If they can afford and attorney who challenges the charges, the charges may be dropped.
You got a different outcome in this case because of the tragic result and the publicity. Where was this DA in previous knife cases? I guess she is pretty new.
To: ilovesarah2012
back in the 50’s switchblade knives were illegal, they always were as far as I know....
To: marktwain
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posted on
05/01/2015 2:06:15 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
To: goat granny
No, not always, they were pretty much banned only in the 50s due to fear of “juvenile delinquents”, inspired by all the pulp fiction and hysterical B movies that featured them.
To: goat granny
To: marktwain
When I first heard the law was finally going to pass I went over to the local gun store to look at their selections. They had about a dozen of different kinds, some of them very nice. None like the one I had when I was a kid, though--back when they were legal--and kids could buy and carry knives.
Law takes effect on November 1, if I recall correctly.
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posted on
05/01/2015 2:11:55 PM PDT
by
OK Sun
(Freedom is not just another word.)
To: OK Sun
Yes, November 1, as I recall. The various switchblade bans were almost a test run for the media to see if they could enact stupid laws through hysteria.
They have enacted a lot more since then.
To: Vendome
I have seen knive sheaths or cases that open the knife for you as it is drawn.
Do you recall any? Seemed like a legal workaround to me.
To: marktwain
"Exactly. But they thought they could get away with it because the existing law is impreciss. I would place a lot of money that in the last five years, dozens of arrests have been made under the law, and they are mostly invalid.
What usually happens, is after the person arrested is placed in jail for a few days or weeks, (because they do not have money for a bail bondman), or gets bailed out, they cop a plea to avoid trial.
If they can afford and attorney who challenges the charges, the charges may be dropped.
You got a different outcome in this case because of the tragic result and the publicity. Where was this DA in previous knife cases? I guess she is pretty new."
You made good and true points there. And yes, the accusation about switchblades to raise suspicion has become one of several canards.
A switchblade is not a knob-bladed lock blade, though. Tourists in the past bought switchblades from foreign countries like Mexico (been there when some Mexican towns still looked like the Old West, seen switchblade vendors and switchblades).
The common switchblade had a spring in it and flicked open with the push or slide of a button on the side of the handle. They were too fragile to be useful for fighting, IMO (too easily forced to close). Some of the few bad police have been using material from novels or old stories about Mexican gangs to come up with the accusation.
A pair of butterfly knives is much more useful for fighting, as are other kinds of knives originally made for fighting. But none of them should be outlawed for people in the U.S.A. to carry, except for individuals who are too incompetent to walk around by themselves (severely retarded, psychotic, fugitive murderers or the like).
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posted on
05/01/2015 2:20:03 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
To: marktwain
Heck, I recall Italian switch blade stilettos advertised in the back sections of Popular Mechanics and Popular Science among other magazines.
My dad told me not to bother as they were “pieces of crap”.
BTW, I carried a pocket knife from third grand on, in DC.
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posted on
05/01/2015 2:22:41 PM PDT
by
Covenantor
("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools wnho cannot govern." Chesterton)
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