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1 posted on 03/26/2015 3:43:21 AM PDT by Yorlik803
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Its a lack of ethics.


2 posted on 03/26/2015 3:45:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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Of COURSE he’s “able” ... AND he satisfies the qualification, at least as much as obama has ... maybe more


3 posted on 03/26/2015 3:50:24 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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The big difference is that Cruz's citizen mother was an adult and according to the law at the time her citizenship conveys to her child even in a foreign land. Obama’s mother was only 17 so if she gave birth outside the US her citizenship doesn't convey according to the law at that time. That's why Obama’s grandparents back in Hawaii put in a birth announcement ...to attempt to claim his citizenship as though he was there. However they have spent millions trying to fabricate and falsify a birth record there. There are also records of him becoming an Indonesian citizen and traveling on their passport. That alone excludes his American citizenship. The difference between Cruz and Obama citizenship claims are far apart. But at this point Obama has silenced everyone so other than for historical purposes the subject is now irrelevant.
5 posted on 03/26/2015 3:55:46 AM PDT by Roamin53 (Islamists kill more people each year in the name of religion than the Inquisition did in 350 years!)
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Actually, I LOVE it when liberals and trolls bring up this subject, and fail utterly to catch traction. It shows how the power of Media Matters shills has lessened.


6 posted on 03/26/2015 4:00:48 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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I am tired of liberals saying Cruz isn't eligible

Then why do you bring it up in a vanity on FR?

/johnny

8 posted on 03/26/2015 4:05:48 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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With liberals, the media paints a flattering, false picture of the candidate. With normal people, they go back to his third grade teacher to find out if he was sexist/ racist/homophobe.


15 posted on 03/26/2015 4:28:41 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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i’m tired of conservative bots of a couple different flavors bringing it up....kinda think it’s funny when the libs do it.


18 posted on 03/26/2015 4:43:21 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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Since everyone who became a citizen at the moment the US became a country is dead, that particular type of citizenship no longer exists, so there are no just two types:
1. Naturalized - you take a test and become a citizen.
2. Natural born - You are a citizen at birth.

Anything else is just political wanking.


19 posted on 03/26/2015 4:49:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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Sites the laws Naturalization laws that Cruz’ eligibility comes under.

I’d book mark it for future reference.

http://news.yahoo.com/ted-cruz-serve-president-born-canada-111410935—politics.html


26 posted on 03/26/2015 5:06:50 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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Was Obama Sr a U.S. citizen? Was Obama Jr.even a U.S. citizen for that matter?


30 posted on 03/26/2015 5:40:03 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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Because his election will be the end of their rein of terror, he scares the bejesus out of them.

They also will be called to stand for their treason...


32 posted on 03/26/2015 5:48:03 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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Did you ask Obama the same question?


33 posted on 03/26/2015 6:01:53 AM PDT by armydawg505
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the founders used the term ‘natural born citizen’ for the position of president due to their desire to insure the person would not have split allegiances, at least by birth. they also wanted to make sure no future king of england could become president of the US. (this is another reason why Americans weren’t supposed to have dual citizenships)

if you use logic, you quickly realize that the only way for someone to satisfy the ‘future king of england’ test would be for the parents to both be citizens of the US (as they would have been required to renounce any other citizenships) and the child to be born on the soil.

most Americans are natural born citizens and do not understand the differences. some people believe being born at all means you were naturally born. it’s ludicrous.

meanwhile, the dems set an obvious trap and hope you walk right into it. they’ll complain about tcruz’s policies and how he’s so opposite their mindset... chum for the right. the right will get all excited... and most likely allow him to win the primary, thinking if 0bama did it (nominate an ineligible candidate), so can they. and just after the primaries, ewarren (as hrclinton will be ducking prison time) will file an injunction to stop tcruz on the grounds he’s not eligible. you see, the left has the bawls to push a legal fight since they have the backing of the press. the right, does not. it will then go to the supreme court which will rule anyone born on foreign soil is obviously not eligible (leaving open the 2 citizen parent question, thereby leaving 0bama untouched).

then... 2 months before the election... the right will be without a candidate. floundering, they will appoint someone else, but the momentum will be lost. allowing the left to sail their candidate to victory.

and this is how ewarren wins 2016


36 posted on 03/26/2015 6:09:39 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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This has been attempted many times to foment doubt in voters minds.

The supreme court has never ruled on the definition of “natural born citizen”.

Conventional wisdom is that a person is a natural born citizen if one of their parents is a U.S. citizen and has not renounced their U.S. citizenship...regardless of where they were born.

Think about it for a moment. If this were not so, any U.S. citizen (female), while pregnant, takes a temporary job outside the U.S. or happen to be staying with relatives overseas, on vacation and end up having her child in a foreign country...would that child not be a citizen of the United States?

The SCOTUS has refused to this point to hear cases having to do with “natural born citizenship”, not sure why.

I always thought that both parents had to be U.S. citizens, but that is not how the constitution reads.

Article II, Section I
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
http://www.heritage.org/constitution

As you can see, natural born citizen is not clearly defined. One or two parents being a U.S. citizen.


41 posted on 03/26/2015 6:28:02 AM PDT by servantboy777
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Would you explain WHY you removed those comments?
Are you a TED CRUZ HATER?


43 posted on 03/26/2015 6:29:14 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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Passed through the mother, because you always know who the mother is! Daddy, not so much.


47 posted on 03/26/2015 6:51:16 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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Leslie Marshall said on Twitter that the “birthers” should realize that Cruz was born in Canada, while 0b0z0 was born in the US. I’m sure that meme will circulate for a while.


50 posted on 03/26/2015 7:12:17 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( _\\//)
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I am tired of liberals saying Cruz isn't eligible to be president because of his father.

I'm not aware of any libs saying this. It was a pretty popular argument around here for a while though.

51 posted on 03/26/2015 7:12:51 AM PDT by Drew68 (Scott Walker '16 Proven Executive Leadership)
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The question is never about where the parents are born. It is only about whether they are citizens at the time of birth of the child.

A child never inherits the parents' type of citizenship. A naturalized citizen can give birth to a natural born citizen.

-PJ

53 posted on 03/26/2015 7:20:07 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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