To: Ragnarok-N-Roll; Fred Nerks; Candor7; caww; SJackson; Tenacious 1; Yosemitest; Nachum
Pinging a few names - part two of “Good Enemies”. If anyone wants to be on a ping list for these threads, freepmail me.
2 posted on
03/20/2015 4:55:43 PM PDT by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: Ragnarok-N-Roll
People need to know three things in order to clearly understand the grave danger of Islamic jihad.
1. The history of Islam
2. The beliefs that drive Islam
3. What they are doing now in OUR country
Ignore these three, and it’s like baring one’s throat to the scimitar.
3 posted on
03/20/2015 4:57:11 PM PDT by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: Ragnarok-N-Roll
Dennis Prager's "5 minutes on the Middle East Conflict" is worth viewing.
The truth about the middle east, Israel Palestinian conflict in 5 minutes, by the Prager University ( 5:58 )
Published on Jun 19, 2014
you can find books by Dennis Prager here: http://bit.ly/dennisprager
Israel would like to exist and recognizes the right of the Palestinians to have a state;
the Palestinians, however, and many other Muslims and Arabs, do not recognize the right of a Jewish state of Israel to exist.
Every poll among Palestinians shows that a majority of Palestinians want there to be no Jewish state of Israel -- doesn't believe it should exist -- or had any basis for being.
And this has been true since 1948, when the British left and the U.N. established a division;
Palestine would be cut in half -- a Jewish half and an Arab half.
The Jews accepted it -- the Arabs didn't accept it.
And what happened?The moment it was announced, Arab armies -- about seven Arab armies -- attacked the Jewish state in order to destroy it.
To everybody's surprise, the little Jewish state survived, and that was pretty much it.
And then it happened again in 1967, when the dictator of Egypt, Gamal Abdul Nasser, said"We're now going to extinguish the Jewish state of Israel."
And Jordan joined him, and Syria joined him --but Israel attacked first, as so Israel survived.
And that is how Israel -- and only that way -- came to occupy what was called the "West Bank" of Jordan -- where many Palestinians lived,
because many Palestinians lived in that part of Jordan.
So, the war was over in '67 and what did the Arabs do?
The Arab states all went to Khartoum, Sudan and announced"No recognition, no peace, and no negotiations,"
the three famous "No's."
What was Israel supposed to do?
Then Israel made an agreement to give the entire Sinai Peninsula -- an area of land bigger than Israel-- with oil -- back to Egypt
because they said they would make peace with Israel.
Israel gives territory back for peace, and it will always do that.
But is there really a desire for peace on the part of Israel's enemies,
which broadcast after broadcast on TV and radio, in the Palestinian areas,is about how Jews should be killed and how Allah wants Jews to be killed?
That's the typical broadcast on Palestinian television.
And so, its not hard to explain the Middle-East dispute.One side wants the other DEAD.
Do you know what the motto of Hamas is?
The motto of Hamas is,"We love DEATH as much as the Jews love life."
Now you tell me how Israel is suppose to make peace when people believe what Hamas believes.
Now, here is one of the most important things nobody talks about:Everybody talks about a Palestinian state --Why didn't anybody talk about a Palestinian state when the Palestinians lived under Jordanian rule?
Because, the truth is, people started talking about a Palestinian state once the Palestinians were under Israeli rule,because it was always a way to destroy the Jewish state of Israel.
And I say "Jewish State" because that is what it is.
There are many, many Arab states but there is only one Jewish state.
It is about the size of New Jersey.
In fact, El Salvador is larger than Israel.
El Salvador!
And yet, if a Martian came to the earth and they visited the United Nations, or they read the world's newspapers, or watched world television,they would believe that biggest problem on Earth is a state the size of New Jersey and El Salvador.This state of Israel, this preoccupation with this little democratic, humane state is absolutely irrational.
And here's another question to be asked:If Israel, tomorrow, put down its arms and saidwhat would happen?
If the Arab countries around Israel said"We will fight no more, we will put down our arms"
what would happen?
In the first casethere would be an immediate destruction of the State of Israel with the mass murder of the Jews of Israel.
In the second scenario I presented, where the Arabs put down their arms and said,"We just want peace,"there would be peace the next Wednesday.
The fact is, as I said at the outset, it is a very simple problem to describe: One side wants the other DEAD --
and if they didn't
Please remember this --there has never been, never in the history of the world, a state in that area,that was not Jewish.
Israel is the third Jewish autonomous Jewish state to exist in that area.
There was never an autonomous Arab state.
There was never an autonomous Muslim state.
There was not an autonomous "any-other" state.
That's the issue:Why can't a little state the size of El Salvador, that calls itself Israel, be allowed to exist?
That, in a nutshell, is the Middle-East problem.
5 posted on
03/20/2015 5:02:30 PM PDT by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Ragnarok-N-Roll; little jeremiah; caww
back to the topic:
Despite all the evidence shown here, which is publicly available to everyone, in May, 2014, U.S. District Judge Kenneth Hoyt ruled that prisons must make allowances for inmates to conduct religious activities and to have services without a prison clergy or civilian religious supervisor present. To allow Muslims to conduct meetings with zero supervision is courting disaster. John Oliver, the warden of a Federal Correctional Institute located in Terre Haute Indiana has gone on record stating that, when allowed group prayer time, Muslims used the time to set up prison gangs.
This is one of the most disturbing aspects of mohammadanism, any group of men who get together to 'study' islam are actually brought under the control of an imam who instructs them in the 'finer' parts of the 'religion' in which 'allah' behoves the convert to either go out and convert others, or if they refuse to accept mohammadanism, to kill them. Thus we are all potential victims of prisoners released. They become the army of allah. To interpret this situation as 'freedom of religion' is to set the wolves loose amongst the lambs, and give the wolves carte blanche. One can only hope that the wolf eats first, the offspring of the idiot who makes this ruling.
46 posted on
03/21/2015 4:10:50 PM PDT by
Fred Nerks
(Fair Dinkum!)
To: Ragnarok-N-Roll
Ragnarok-N-Roll, I realize you are very busy but I am hoping you can find time to answer this.
After seeing the incredible tangled web of Moslem organizations that are not only tolerated in the US, but fostered and promoted by our government, and with members of these jihad organizations even in government positions, I have this question.
WHY?????? Does no one in government stop this? Reverse it? I know Michelle Bachmann tried and a few other Congressmen supported her but she was denounced by the establishment Repukes. And then she didn’t run again; I wonder if she was threatened.
Is it money that motivates the moslem-enablers in our government? I realize leftists always like Moslems but surely they can’t ALL be utterly blind to the fact that in a Moslem dominated country they would be just as tortured and dead as any Christian or Jew or Hindu or any other “infidel”.
I can understand about 0v0mit or others who are actually Moslems themselves. But they would make little headway without the huge machinery of enablers in the federal government.
What do you think is the reason for this “roll over and play dead” attitude?
78 posted on
03/22/2015 1:20:08 PM PDT by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: Ragnarok-N-Roll
Bumping this thread - Part Three of “Good Enemies” about Islamic jihad. This part goes into various Islamic organizations have infiltrated and influenced our government and not just fedgov level either. It is vital information. Our country is being eaten out just like a house with timbers rotten from termites, about to collapse. Thanks to cowards, traitors, leftists who like to team up with moslems, and selfish people who are bought by the highest bidder, we are in dire straits. Islamic jihad is on the march and so many people do not even see the danger.
This book being printed on FR in parts - “Good Enemies” - could be entitled “Know Your Enemy”. One who does not know the enemy is doomed to defeat.
102 posted on
04/02/2015 5:36:56 PM PDT by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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