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Good Enemies - Part II
Posted on 03/20/2015 4:26:19 PM PDT by Ragnarok-N-Roll
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To: Ragnarok-N-Roll; Fred Nerks; Candor7; caww; SJackson; Tenacious 1; Yosemitest; Nachum
Pinging a few names - part two of “Good Enemies”. If anyone wants to be on a ping list for these threads, freepmail me.
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posted on
03/20/2015 4:55:43 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: Ragnarok-N-Roll
People need to know three things in order to clearly understand the grave danger of Islamic jihad.
1. The history of Islam
2. The beliefs that drive Islam
3. What they are doing now in OUR country
Ignore these three, and it’s like baring one’s throat to the scimitar.
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posted on
03/20/2015 4:57:11 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: little jeremiah
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posted on
03/20/2015 5:00:14 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Ragnarok-N-Roll
Dennis Prager's "5 minutes on the Middle East Conflict" is worth viewing.
The truth about the middle east, Israel Palestinian conflict in 5 minutes, by the Prager University ( 5:58 )
Published on Jun 19, 2014
you can find books by Dennis Prager here: http://bit.ly/dennisprager
Israel would like to exist and recognizes the right of the Palestinians to have a state;
the Palestinians, however, and many other Muslims and Arabs, do not recognize the right of a Jewish state of Israel to exist.
Every poll among Palestinians shows that a majority of Palestinians want there to be no Jewish state of Israel -- doesn't believe it should exist -- or had any basis for being.
And this has been true since 1948, when the British left and the U.N. established a division;
Palestine would be cut in half -- a Jewish half and an Arab half.
The Jews accepted it -- the Arabs didn't accept it.
And what happened?The moment it was announced, Arab armies -- about seven Arab armies -- attacked the Jewish state in order to destroy it.
To everybody's surprise, the little Jewish state survived, and that was pretty much it.
And then it happened again in 1967, when the dictator of Egypt, Gamal Abdul Nasser, said"We're now going to extinguish the Jewish state of Israel."
And Jordan joined him, and Syria joined him --but Israel attacked first, as so Israel survived.
And that is how Israel -- and only that way -- came to occupy what was called the "West Bank" of Jordan -- where many Palestinians lived,
because many Palestinians lived in that part of Jordan.
So, the war was over in '67 and what did the Arabs do?
The Arab states all went to Khartoum, Sudan and announced"No recognition, no peace, and no negotiations,"
the three famous "No's."
What was Israel supposed to do?
Then Israel made an agreement to give the entire Sinai Peninsula -- an area of land bigger than Israel-- with oil -- back to Egypt
because they said they would make peace with Israel.
Israel gives territory back for peace, and it will always do that.
But is there really a desire for peace on the part of Israel's enemies,
which broadcast after broadcast on TV and radio, in the Palestinian areas,is about how Jews should be killed and how Allah wants Jews to be killed?
That's the typical broadcast on Palestinian television.
And so, its not hard to explain the Middle-East dispute.One side wants the other DEAD.
Do you know what the motto of Hamas is?
The motto of Hamas is,"We love DEATH as much as the Jews love life."
Now you tell me how Israel is suppose to make peace when people believe what Hamas believes.
Now, here is one of the most important things nobody talks about:Everybody talks about a Palestinian state --Why didn't anybody talk about a Palestinian state when the Palestinians lived under Jordanian rule?
Because, the truth is, people started talking about a Palestinian state once the Palestinians were under Israeli rule,because it was always a way to destroy the Jewish state of Israel.
And I say "Jewish State" because that is what it is.
There are many, many Arab states but there is only one Jewish state.
It is about the size of New Jersey.
In fact, El Salvador is larger than Israel.
El Salvador!
And yet, if a Martian came to the earth and they visited the United Nations, or they read the world's newspapers, or watched world television,they would believe that biggest problem on Earth is a state the size of New Jersey and El Salvador.This state of Israel, this preoccupation with this little democratic, humane state is absolutely irrational.
And here's another question to be asked:If Israel, tomorrow, put down its arms and saidwhat would happen?
If the Arab countries around Israel said"We will fight no more, we will put down our arms"
what would happen?
In the first casethere would be an immediate destruction of the State of Israel with the mass murder of the Jews of Israel.
In the second scenario I presented, where the Arabs put down their arms and said,"We just want peace,"there would be peace the next Wednesday.
The fact is, as I said at the outset, it is a very simple problem to describe: One side wants the other DEAD --
and if they didn't
Please remember this --there has never been, never in the history of the world, a state in that area,that was not Jewish.
Israel is the third Jewish autonomous Jewish state to exist in that area.
There was never an autonomous Arab state.
There was never an autonomous Muslim state.
There was not an autonomous "any-other" state.
That's the issue:Why can't a little state the size of El Salvador, that calls itself Israel, be allowed to exist?
That, in a nutshell, is the Middle-East problem.
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posted on
03/20/2015 5:02:30 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
I personally do not adhere to Christian eschatology, I don’t mind if other people do, but I do not share those beliefs, and even many Christians do not.
What concerns me is the horrible bloodshed and slaughter and tyranny that Islam is causing all over the world right now and plans for increasing such.
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posted on
03/20/2015 5:21:55 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: Yosemitest
I should have added:
Islam is the enemy not just of Christians, but Jews of course, Buddhists, Hindus, Jains, Sikhs, and every other known and unknown religious adherents in the world, including such not “real” religions as Satanists, wiccans, Druids, pagans, spiritists, follows of voudoun, and atheists of every description. We all face the scimitar or the Koran eventually unless Islam is utterly defeated in every way.
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posted on
03/20/2015 5:25:02 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: little jeremiah
And what is you position on Jesus's (
John 1:1-16, emphasis on verse 3) solution?
You want to see the "End of the Matter" ? " ... And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them... ... after the end of seven months shall they search.
And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it,till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog ... "
That's a VERY long time burying dead Muslims, ... burying a lot of DEAD Muslims!
And here's WHY !
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posted on
03/20/2015 5:28:00 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: little jeremiah
Remember what
our Heavenly Father said:
... HIS HAND WILL BE AGAINST EVERY MAN,and EVERY MAN'S HAND AGAINST HIM;and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren ...
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posted on
03/20/2015 5:29:31 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
I prefer to keep religious discussion on the Religion Forum.
The danger of Islam targets everyone as I noted above.
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posted on
03/20/2015 6:14:21 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: little jeremiah
THIS would appear to be the future. Christian churches used for housing animals, like this one in Cyprus. And there's not a thing anyone seems to be doing about it, not while the precious United Nations is run by a gang of socialists, dictators and cowards. And 57 arab nations. Scripture isn't going to turn the tide. So what will?
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posted on
03/20/2015 6:17:22 PM PDT
by
Fred Nerks
(Fair Dinkum!)
To: Yosemitest
Probably best if you could do a thread of your own about Bible prophesies so as to keep this thread centered on the dangers of Islam, especially in our own country and government, as described in Part Two of “Good Enemies”.
If you do a thread of your own about such prophesies, than those who are interested could go there and discuss them.
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posted on
03/20/2015 6:23:35 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: Fred Nerks
The UN is a steaming pile of vermin. It needs to be shut down and every UN representative sent home. It’s exactly as you state.
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posted on
03/20/2015 6:24:34 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: little jeremiah
I think something like 750,000 parasites are on the UN Payroll. That’s a lot of people doing not much, and a lot of money down the shute; for the purpose of making a list of national parks, natural treasures and writing letters of disapproval to regimes who slaughter their own citizens. Mind you, the ‘palestinians’ couldn’t survive without the UN.
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posted on
03/20/2015 6:47:01 PM PDT
by
Fred Nerks
(Fair Dinkum!)
To: Yosemitest
Watch these threads Yosemite... We will get into the prophecies a little later.
To: Fred Nerks
That’s 3/4 of a million. I wonder what the total sum of money is supporting them, I have read the US pays the majority of costs of the UN. It’s way beyond disgusting. Many of these hell hole countries would have no power whatsoever were it not for the UN. I guess that was the original purpose anyway.
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posted on
03/20/2015 7:11:27 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: little jeremiah
http://www.un.org/en/sc/about/functions.shtml
Under the United Nations Charter, the functions and powers of the Security Council are:
to maintain international peace and security in accordance with the principles and purposes of the United Nations;
to investigate any dispute or situation which mightlead to international friction;
to recommend methods of adjusting such disputes or the terms of settlement;
to formulate plans for the establishment of a system to regulate armaments;
to determine the existence of a threat to the peace or act of aggression and to recommend what action should be taken;
to call on Members to apply economic sanctions and other measures not involving the use of force to prevent or stop aggression;
to take military action against an aggressor;
etc etc
So tell me, how secure do you feel? Isn’t it nice to know you are protected? /s
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posted on
03/20/2015 7:24:26 PM PDT
by
Fred Nerks
(Fair Dinkum!)
To: Ragnarok-N-Roll
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posted on
03/21/2015 2:08:47 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
You are preaching to the choir here, Yosemite. I know all about the prophecies. Let’s stay on topic here. The eschatology will come later after we have established what we are up against.
To: Ragnarok-N-Roll
We’re up against a broken covenant and Satan’s Armies.
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posted on
03/21/2015 7:21:07 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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