Wild Speculation on Gun in Ferguson Police Shooting

Ammoland ^ | March 13, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

[newnhdad]

so now everyone is a crime scene tech and an expert on how body parts like bones, cartilage and muscle effect the movement of projectiles through human tissue.

This is why I hate TV...

[airdalechief]

Three shots. Three seconds. Sounds like an AR 15-10 to me. But what do I know.

[hadaclueonce]

I’m pretty sure many of the police officers know whether it was a 22LR

I disagree. Most I have seen have to look at the rear of a shell case to know the caliber.

[smokingfrog]

In my expert opinion, it was not a .50 BMG.

[moovova]

My first tube-fed 22 rifle was a Ted Williams, back in the ‘60s. I remember my father taking me to the gun counter at Sears. It showed up under the Christmas tree...from Santa.

I still have it, although it’s in pieces.

[Vaduz]

Sounds like more logic from the Obama war room.

[gundog]

If it was a 22, it wasn't just some dickhead who grabbed a gun and did it on impulse.

Indeed. Add in the stress associated with shooting at people and the need for exfiltration, and I think you're dealing with an experienced hand.

[MilesVeritatis]

“I disagree. Most I have seen have to look at the rear of a shell case to know the caliber. “

I did not write that the police can know the precise caliber simply by listening to it.

I did indeed write that many can differentiate .22LR from a high powered centerfire cartridge like .223 or larger. .22LR sounds nothing like those more powerful cartridges. If you are around them enough, you certainly can hear the difference.

[gundog]

Polish Mauser" Where? I see an M-1 carbine and the muzzle end of something under it. Got a sustained look at Sgt Schultz' weapon on Hogan's Heroes last night. A Krag-Jorgensen. I swear I've seen German troops with Thompsons.

[Vermont Lt]

Not to argue too much, but an AR has almost no recoil. I could have done that with an AR-15 without any trouble.

[MilesVeritatis]

Update: there’s at least one report of 40 caliber bullets being used.

A spokesman for the St. Louis Police Officers Association, Jeff Roorda, says that “it appears” the police officers were shot with 40 caliber bullets.

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/police-spokesman-discusses-dead-cops-remark-412716611767

[ChildOfThe60s]

okay, so I’m going to display my ignorance. what rifles shoot .40 caliber bullets?

[ozzymandus]

The Germans captured a lot of Thompsons from the French and British early in the war, and from the Americans also, later. I’ve seen photos of German troops carrying Thompsons, usually guard troops, since ammo was a specialty item.
The front sight on the rifle on the bottom of the pile looks Polish, Spanish, or German.

[2ndDivisionVet]

One example: Hi Point .40 carbine. About $329.00.

[antidisestablishment]

Recorded shots cannot be identified. Recording equipment does not record full spectrum—shots and explosions all sound small. That’s why Hollywood employs Foley artists.

[marktwain]

“okay, so I’m going to display my ignorance. what rifles shoot .40 caliber bullets?”

For .40 Smith & Wesson, there are a couple of carbines out there.

http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/Hi-Point-carbines/40SW_carbine.html

[MilesVeritatis]

"Recorded shots cannot be identified. Recording equipment does not record full spectrum—shots and explosions all sound small. That’s why Hollywood employs Foley artists."

Just to clarify, my comments about police identifying .22LR by ear was only for police on the scene who heard it live.

[gundog]

Thanks. The guy with the Thompson was guarding a bridge crossing, with a couple of others carrying MP-38 or 40’s. I saw the muzzle....definetly not K-98. That’s why I always look to see if I can ID Schulz’s gun. He always drags it around by the muzzle and I couldn’t tell.