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To: PieterCasparzen
What is this "Natural Creation" ? It's not in the Bible.

I mean the material world, which is referred to in rustic vernacular as "Creation". This is definition 3 in my Websters Seventh Tattered...

creation ... 3 : something that is created: as a : WORLD b : creatures singly or in aggregate ...

You know, it was not Evolution, but Newton that elevated science to a comprehensive system and put it in a position where it challenged religion as a fundamental viewpoint. This was crystallized in Halley's Ode To Newton, contained in a prefix to Newton's Principia Mathematica.

The ode contains the statement ( in Motte's translation)

Here ponder too the Laws which God,
Framing the universe, set not aside
but made the fixed foundations of his work.

This was quite controversial because it seemed to indicate that God was in fact BOUND by these Laws. In fact, through the efforts of a zealous churchman, it was censored, or softened, in some later editions, and was only restored in relatively modern times.

The latin is possibly more forceful, containing the phrase "omniparens Leges Creator violare noluit" ... "Universal Laws the Creator was unwilling to violate" ... heady stuff.

133 posted on 03/12/2015 10:09:54 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

Can you see hubris in that ?


137 posted on 03/13/2015 8:43:55 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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