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To: Sean_Anthony

What is the difference between China and Cuba?? Why is not only acceptable to have relations with China, but to ship all of our manufacturing capability to them, but its not acceptable to normalize relations with Cuba?

Both were led by Communist dictators at the time of normalizing relationships.

Both are Communist nations.

But the differences are this:

China doesn’t have a sizable population of expatriates living the US, using the whole “we’re refugees” meme as a means to get stuff.

And #2, and this is the big one, there aren’t enough Cubans in Cuba for the Chamber of Commerce to exploit as a new labor source for their profits. The ChiComs are our friend because they have an unlimited pool of slave labor that can undermine the wages of the American worker.

I don’t agree with Obama on almost anything, but I applaud this move and I hope he does it.


4 posted on 12/20/2014 8:30:12 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

+1


6 posted on 12/20/2014 8:56:29 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Bryanw92
The Castros had foreknowledge of the planned assassination of an American president. The Chinese did not.

For that reason alone, we must never break bread with these monsters.

9 posted on 12/20/2014 9:29:35 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Bryanw92

The difference is there was a realpolitik, geopolitical reason to normalize relations with China. No such reason exists for Cuba. The only reasons Obama is doing this are:

1) Obama gets the frisson of making peace with Fidel the leftist icon

2) Obama gets to have normalized relations with Cuba as part of his legacy

3) Obama gets to delight his leftist base

4) Obama gets to piss off conservatives

5) Obama gets to snatch a moral victory from American anti-communists

6) Obama gets to create moral equivalence between American “colonialism” and communism

7) The United States gets virtually nothing in return.


10 posted on 12/20/2014 9:35:55 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Bryanw92

If Mao was still in power.we would not have normal relations.with China. It would be a horrible thing to do to those who suffered under him.

To legitimize Castro is the same.I feel sorry for those who fought for freedom who have to watch this.


11 posted on 12/20/2014 9:48:00 AM PST by what's up
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To: Bryanw92
Obama, and those opposed to the embargo, want to add 11 million Cubans in the Island to U.S. welfare rolls. Castro will bankrupt U.S. as he bankrupted the Soviet Union.

AMERICANS BEWARE!

Pope Francis concocted Obama’s unconditional surrender to Cuba Stalinist regime.

Behind Obama’s unconditional surrender to the Castro’s brothers, is the plot to make the American taxpayers liable for whatever the American companies sell to Cuba. The end of the embargo is their goal. "Because of something called the Export-Import Bank there's no risk whatsoever in exporting to bankrupt, murderous and kleptocratic regimes- worse there' no incentive for the kleptocrats to clean up their act, as would happen under a genuine free-market. Also the World, financed 80% by the American taxpayers will open their vaults to be freely looted by the Castro brothers."

Castro helped to bankrupt the Soviet Union, Obama before leaving want to complete the destruction of United States.

In the commercial and political relations of the Cuban regime and the U.S. there are several priorities to be concerned with.

1st. Cuba has defaulted in all his international financial deals and Castro encourages other Third World nations to follow his example. Why are we going to sell to someone without the expectation to ever be pay. The American taxpayers should be aware that they are the targets of the scam by which the multinationals sell to Castro whatever he needs and we, the taxpayers, end footing the bill. Castro for 42 years has been with commercial ties with over 150 nations. Now when he has exhausted the patience of nations fool enough to have given him credit, Castro’s puppets in the media, the congress in cahoots with some greedy commercial circles are trying that the American taxpayers shoulder the heavy burden of subsidizing his regime to the tune of 9 billion dollars.

2nd. The American companies cannot made business legally with Cuba without violating several American laws.

A.- Trading with the Enemy Act.

B.- U.S. Commercial Embargo Against Cuba.

C.- Helms- Burton Law.

D.- Involvement in bribes in commercial dealings with another nation. :

E.- Involvement in slave labor of foreign workers in connivance with the local authorities.

3rd. Cuba is, and has been a terrorist state for 54 years, and counts with advanced chemical, biological and cyber warfare capabilities aimed against our country. The cooperation between the Cuban regime with Iraq and Iran in the chemical and biological research is well known. A few months before the September 11 attack Castro affirmed at the University of Tehran that their cooperation would put the U.S. down to its knees. Castro once tried to nuke our cities and he has the means and the will to fulfill his dream of destroying our country. If we are involved in a worldwide war against terrorism, Cuba at 90 miles from our coasts should be a prime target in that war; so, those involved in appeasement policies towards Castro and in the promotion of the lifting of the commercial embargo against Cuba are in fact aiding and abetting our worst enemy.

The British intelligence recently made public the relationship between Castro and the terrorist guerrillas of Colombia, IRA, and Chilean terrorists. The socialist administration in Chile has expressed their deepest concern to Castro. The Cuban dictator, as usual, disregarded Chile's official inquiry into the matter and denied that any of those Chilean terrorists had ever been in Cuba, although there are phone calls that were intercepted between them while in Cuba and their relatives in Chile.

We have to wonder why Obama unconditionally surrendered to the Cuban Communist thugs endangering the security of the U.S.?

13 posted on 12/20/2014 10:31:13 AM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPx.jpg)
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