Posted on 11/29/2014 7:25:43 AM PST by marktwain
right, the question is ridiculous
I never said they should be prohibited. I just don't think they are protected by the 2nd. One can take prisoners with any sort of weapon, deadly or otherwise. Most are taken at gunpoint. The term "arms" was very specific to the Founders.
Exactly! Arms means everything under the Sun, everything that was, is, and shall be a weapon! The only exceptions I would make is CBRN weapons.
You referenced a rule that banned sawed off shotguns as a basis and are refusing to acknowledge the same rule banned machine guns.
Show where I refused to acknowledge that. I fully understand that the machine gun portion of that ruling to be fallacious. I agree with the shotgun portion of the ruling. That is just me and my choice of weapons, I suppose.
If I had my way, we would still be packing the 7.62 X 51 weapons and not that damn BB gun.
Guns, swords, fighting knives, clubs, tomahawks, mace, pepper spray -- ANYTHING whose use is to protect oneself from aggression is covered under the Second Amendment's "right to keep and bear arms".
Short barreled shotguns were used extensively during the First World War and are used extensively today as breeching weapons. Therefore they should be protected by the 2nd Amendment.
Why would you agree with the shotgun portion of the ruling?
There are many good people in Massachusetts. They are simply infested with “Progressive” politicians.
We need to expose them and remove their power.
The best way is to build the new media.
I know you know all that...
(but I like the sentiment) :-)
I don't disagree with "shotgun" in general. The sawed-off shotgun is a weapon of the criminal. A proper tactical shotgun in an entirely different matter.
Nobody else on this thread attempted to address the actual problem posed in the article and the correct Second Amendment solution.
Never tried to operate a full size shotgun within the confines of a tank?
The sawed off shotgun is just the thing to repel attackers trying to breach your safe room.
It is never the tool itself which is evil,but its use by evil people.
Ever try a purpose-made short-barreled tactical shotgun withing the confines of a tank? You must not be reading my posts. A sawed-off shotgun is a weapon made by thugs out of hunting shotguns. A tactical short-barreled shotgun is a different matter. Read baby, read.
Do something before they get into your tank.
A tactical sawed off shotgun is a weapon of war, but a civilian one is against the rule of war? Your logic doesn't make sense. If I have a sawed off shotgun to protect my family in the confines of my house that is illegal? The ATF welcomes your support.
It's for her safety, of course...
I'm not sure if you are unfamiliar with proper terminology or are not reading carefully. A "sawed-off" shotgun is one that has been modified to a short barrel by physically sawing off a portion of a longer barrel with a hack saw. It is an inferior expedient that is made illegally. A short barreled tactical shotgun is appropriate because it functions entirely as intended by its manufacturer.
Altered weapons are usually inferior, certainly not military grade. They are generally used by criminals so that they can conceal the weapon for use in the commission of a crime.
If you have a sawed-off shotgun to protect your family, you are in possession of an illegally altered firearm. If you are protecting your family with a tactical short-barreled shotgun that was manufactured in accordance with regulations, you are just fine.
Some people just don't know the meaning of specific terminology, I suppose. Do you say "clip" or "magazine" when referring to a spring-loaded ammunition feed mechanism that is inserted into a weapon?
Use of proper nomenclature and compliance to regulations is the key to these concepts.
To the government’s point of view, there is no difference between a sawed-off shotgun and a purpose built short-barrel shotgun. Both perform the exact same function. We cant ban or regulate sawed-offs/SBS just because sawed-off shotguns have been historically associated with gangsters. Politicians once said the same thing about machine guns, so now we cant get one without breaking the bank. If we want to overturn the NFA and GCA, then we must de-stigmatize these weapons.
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