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To: Diogenesis
Excellent point.

Why was Michigan’s payment more than Wisconsin ($400,000), Vermont ($400,000) and Minnesota ($329,000)?..... Either bigger suckers for the fraud ... or in on it.

Just one of the scam perpetrated on state taxpayers. Money-laundering, conspiracy and and massive govt fraud should be considered. Read on.

The salient point is this: Gruber acting as an independent researcher is one thing--- but Gruber consorting w/ many people in govt figuring out ways to lie in order to dupe the tax-paying public is a CONSPIRACY.

The connivers passed O/Care w/ a massive, multi-billion-dollar slush fund that was deliberately kept hidden from us "stupid taxpayers" by self-serving Grubercrats.

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The Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest. Egged on by Pelosi, Democrats slavishly voted for Obamacare by an historic straignt-party line vote. But not one Democrat told Americans about Obamacare's Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation).

THE PAYOFF--WHO GETS THE MONEY? In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion, and, in 2015 and on, $2 billion

<><> Where is all that money going?

<><> Was cashing-in the incentive in getting the thing passed?

The sound of West Wing wire-transfers to states and to offshore banks is almost palpable.

4 posted on 11/30/2014 4:04:19 AM PST by Liz
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“Mr. Gruber appears to be a very devious man – perhaps with a proclivity for fraud,” state Rep. McMillin said in an email. State legislators will request that relevant state agencies investigate the state’s deal with Gruber......they want to know (1) how Gruber was selected, and, (2) what services he provided for the money.

Obama is downplaying Gruber's role, claiming he had no part in passing O/care. But if Gruber was NOT the Obamacare architect---then Gruber took money under false pretenses and should be prosecuted for govt fraud.

The Gruber selection process is crucial----(1) to scrutinize the credentials Gruber presented, (2) his monetary requirements, and, (3) what he based his expertise on.

5 posted on 11/30/2014 4:16:24 AM PST by Liz
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