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30 Years Later, America Truly Is Becoming A ‘1984’ Society
The End of the American Dream ^ | 11/16/2014 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 11/18/2014 12:00:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/18/2014 12:00:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

<>So is there any hope that we will wake up, or will our society continue to march toward oblivion?<>

The only possible peaceful solution rests with divesting power from DC. That can happen when the states take their place once again in the Senate.

Article V Now!


2 posted on 11/18/2014 12:07:01 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think it’s closer to Hayek’s statement in “The Road to Serfdom” about America and Britain having a soft totalitarianism.


3 posted on 11/18/2014 12:07:04 PM PST by struggle
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks. Interesting article and good food for thought.


4 posted on 11/18/2014 12:10:35 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: struggle

“I think it’s closer to Hayek’s statement in “The Road to Serfdom” about America and Britain having a soft totalitarianism.”

1984 and The Road to Serfdom were both written in England in the 1940’s as observations on the increased influence of Socialists, Communists and leftists in the British government and among British intellectuals.

Hayek, the economist, focused on the destruction of the economy. Orwell, the journalist, focused on the use of language, propaganda and the ability of a small group of totalitarians to control a larger society.

Both books should be read together as astute observations on the leftist influences that are so powerful today.


5 posted on 11/18/2014 12:18:09 PM PST by detective
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To: SeekAndFind
Sigh, sad inded.

The perfect storm of the unintended consequences of technology, terrorism and the decision to militarize the reaction to 9-11.

6 posted on 11/18/2014 12:23:26 PM PST by buckalfa (Long time caller --- first time listener.)
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To: SeekAndFind

On the day after 9/11 I was working in my office and talking to some young 20 something co workers. They were asking me what I thought was going to happen.

I told her it was not the terrorist that we should be worried about. I told them that the government might take advantage of situation and use it to crack down on internal issues. This was before the Patriot Act.

After the PA passed, many of its components had to do with banking regulations that we being imposed on our bank. Every time one of them went by my office, they would look in and say, “You were right.”

I got a Linked In message from one of them a couple of weeks ago. He said, “Boy, you must have a crystal ball...what everyone thought was ‘good’ turned out to be very intrusive.”

1984. We have arrived.


7 posted on 11/18/2014 12:39:09 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m re-reading 1984 right now and if anyone thinks there is no difference between the government described in the book and the one we have no, you need to re-read the book. There are VERY big differences. Stupid comments will get a response to re-read the *&^%ing book.


8 posted on 11/18/2014 12:41:44 PM PST by Minsc
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I think “1984” might almost be a step up from where we’ve been heading. It’s been more of a descent into a third-world banana republic than anything else — the trappings of a constitutional system but with an all-powerful dictator who has the media in his pocket and can use the full force of the government against his political and personal enemies. In such systems, the general population gets poorer and poorer while the dictator and his cronies lack for nothing except scruples.


9 posted on 11/18/2014 12:52:54 PM PST by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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I think “1984” might almost be a step up from where we’ve been heading. It’s been more of a descent into a third-world banana republic than anything else — the trappings of a constitutional system but with an all-powerful dictator who has the media in his pocket and can use the full force of the government against his political and personal enemies. In such systems, the general population gets poorer and poorer while the dictator and his cronies lack for nothing except scruples.

Post of the day. Don't forget the feral mob living on government handouts and abusing the honest citizens with the complicity of the governing elite.

10 posted on 11/18/2014 12:58:06 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Minsc

Lick the boots. Because we haven’t yet arrived at the final destination doesn’t mean the comparison isn’t valid. The differences are only ones of degree, not sort.


11 posted on 11/18/2014 1:16:14 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Minsc

Instead of just screed, tell us what these VERY big differences are in your opinion. Oh, ,, and welcome to FR.


12 posted on 11/18/2014 1:17:42 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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“The difference between a welfare state and a totalitarian state is a matter of time.”
– Ayn Rand (1905-1982)
13 posted on 11/18/2014 1:23:38 PM PST by GBA (Hick with a keyboard.)
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War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Freedom Is Strength.'' Who controls the past controls the future.''
14 posted on 11/18/2014 2:08:37 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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I realize this question was not directed at me, but the very biggest difference is that in 1984, sex is stigmatized and see as something that needs to be done “for the party,” i.e., just for the purpose of making children who can then serve the government well.

Our government seems to encourage as much sexual perversity as it can, making the ability to have sex with whomever one wants with 0 repercussions some kind of lofty mission.

On that note, there are many similarities that I will not deny. We are not yet at the point where political dissenters get their faces chewed off by rats, but we are certainly heading that way.

I mean, we all know it’s only a matter of time until Pelosi chews off somebody’s face.


15 posted on 11/18/2014 2:12:59 PM PST by Conservaliberty (Everything is racist. Don't agree? That's because you're racist. /s)
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If this person truly thinks that George Orwell “never imagined 1984 would come to pass” then they don’t understand tha nature of the beast. Of course he imagined it would come to pass, why would you bother to write works like 1984 (or Animal Farm, or Brave New World, or the Book of Revelation) if you did not think they might come to pass?


16 posted on 11/18/2014 2:17:46 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (Pray for the restoration of a strong and free USA)
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To: Minsc

It is surely true that there are differences. I have read the book multiple times and I know it very well.

That being said, many things happening now are eerily reminiscent of 1984. We have media campaigns targeted to distract us from what’s really happening, we have a government who are acting as if they can erase things they have previously said (they can’t, but they sure do try), and increasingly, we are seeing an increase of income disparity between “party” (politicians, pundits, etc.) and “proles” (average working voters or middle class who are being shafted financially by Obamacare, etc.)

I don’t think that there is “no difference.” But as far as metaphors go, it’s a very good one.


17 posted on 11/18/2014 2:20:54 PM PST by Conservaliberty (Everything is racist. Don't agree? That's because you're racist. /s)
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The media stuff is very true.


18 posted on 11/18/2014 2:33:47 PM PST by Minsc
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To: DesertRhino

The big difference the level of control and the use of the information gathered.


19 posted on 11/18/2014 2:34:46 PM PST by Minsc
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The perfect storm of the unintended consequences of technology, terrorism and the decision to militarize the reaction to 9-11

Yes, but primarily, technology.
20 posted on 11/18/2014 2:59:16 PM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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