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The Supreme Court will hear King. That’s bad news for the ACA (aka Obamacare)
The Incidental Economist ^ | November 7, 2014 | Nicholas Bagley

Posted on 11/07/2014 11:43:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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Dare we hope?
1 posted on 11/07/2014 11:43:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stop teasing me ...


2 posted on 11/07/2014 11:48:56 AM PST by 11th_VA (It may be legal, but it's still wrong)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At this point I think the Dems would be begging for this to get tossed before it destroys their party.


3 posted on 11/07/2014 11:49:13 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Dare we hope?

Might have to do more. Pray.

4 posted on 11/07/2014 11:49:33 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

After the gymnastics Roberts went through to declare that the federal government could force individuals to buy insurance, I wouldn’t hold my breath.


5 posted on 11/07/2014 11:50:01 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

my thots too...


6 posted on 11/07/2014 11:53:26 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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Dare we hope?

We are allowed hope if you assume that:

1. Supreme Court Justices can read plain English.
2. They care about the Rule of Law.
3. They are not subject to blackmail by Obama.

Given what we know about the current batch of Supremes, I give us about a 50/50 shot at success. At least 4 don't give a hoot about the Rule of Law and there is a high likelihood that at least one can be blackmailed.

7 posted on 11/07/2014 11:53:38 AM PST by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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8 posted on 11/07/2014 11:57:58 AM PST by Bratch
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good chance the court will say the ACA means whatever the Sec of HHS says it means


9 posted on 11/07/2014 11:59:19 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I think that’s a fair interpretation, but it’s not the only one.

An alternate could be that those gymnastics specifically and directly condemn the ACA, and that further, Roberts aim was for an election turned out like the one this past Tuesday. Elections have consequences.

I don’t particularly have faith in the latter one, but it is at least plausible.


10 posted on 11/07/2014 12:02:41 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not an optimist, but it’s possible that we will win this one. The political motive to twist the law and the Constitution is gone in this second case, and the issues are different. Roberts and Kennedy could both rule in favor of the rule of law, for 6-3.


11 posted on 11/07/2014 12:05:01 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Doesn’t the ACA law clearly say that subsidies can ONLY go to exchanges that are established by States - NOT those established by the Federal Government?

If so, its a simple case of merely following the law, isn’t it?


12 posted on 11/07/2014 12:05:02 PM PST by PGR88
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You’d think so, wouldn’t you?


13 posted on 11/07/2014 12:10:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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I don't want to give Justice Roberts any credit, but it is possible that by refusing to strike down ObamaCare, Roberts might possible have destroyed the Democrat party.

We will know in about 6 months...when ObamaCare comes into full force.

14 posted on 11/07/2014 12:15:24 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Perhaps he'll view this as an opportunity to undo the damage he has wrought upon the nation with his linguistic machinations?


15 posted on 11/07/2014 12:18:21 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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Don’t hope....not yet anyway.

I do not believe judges are those ‘neutral’ arbiters of law that are storied for their dedication to truth, justice, and the American way. I think they are bald-faced politicians.

That said, the republicans have a few judges on the scotus bench. I would classify Kennedy among them.

So, you want to rewrite the law and fix it, and you don’t have any leverage over a veto-prone president. What do you do? You bring the other arm of your coalition, the Scotus, with you to the bargaining table. “Listen Barack, we’ll let you keep your legacy if you let us rewrite it. It’s killing the economy and we want to fix it. If not, we’ll just strike it down. Will you negotiate it or will you allow the only piece of legislation with your name on it to be...poof...gone?”

So, I see a rewrite in the works.


16 posted on 11/07/2014 12:29:10 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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And I thought the original ruling would be a no-brainer too.

Fool me once shame on you. Fool me again shame on me.


17 posted on 11/07/2014 12:31:23 PM PST by technically right
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Equal protection demands that if they rul against the irs, then the Aca be thrown out.


18 posted on 11/07/2014 12:35:17 PM PST by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While snooping around the DUmp on election night I noticed they make it a point to always call it “ACA”. Now if this is their favorite President’s signature achievment and the biggest deal to ever come out of Washington in 200 years, wouldn’t they be the first to call it “Obamacare’ in honor of their fearless leader?


19 posted on 11/07/2014 12:42:59 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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I have long thought that Roberts was giving the Democrats the rope to hang themselves. Too many of his other decisions were right down the Constitutional line.


20 posted on 11/07/2014 12:44:36 PM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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