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The High-Tech Case For Bringing Back The Draft
io9 ^ | April 3, 2014 | Mark Strauss

Posted on 09/15/2014 7:16:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You and I were both at Red Cloud, but I was there ten years prior to you. I know what you mean. I saw the attitudes when I was there. I just don’t believe it’s the best idea when it’s proven we can have a very successful volunteer military. Attitude means something, and sometimes what it means is the difference between living, and dying.


21 posted on 09/15/2014 8:09:46 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Most developed countries have it."

Do most developed countries have a 13th Amendment?

22 posted on 09/15/2014 8:10:59 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With all of the remote controlled high tech stuff, I say let the old folks who want to break things and kill people have at it as volunteers.


23 posted on 09/15/2014 8:11:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: rockinqsranch

24 posted on 09/15/2014 8:15:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Flag_This

Tell me, then, how we had it in the Civil War, World Wars I and II, Korea, the cold war and Vietnam?


25 posted on 09/15/2014 8:17:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: GeronL; jsanders2001

I think he had a sarcasm tag at the end of his comment.


26 posted on 09/15/2014 8:21:36 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for the memories. That MP directing traffic at the gate was me, but in 1966.

The PX up at the back of the compound had the absolutely best raised donuts, and fried chicken in the entire World.


27 posted on 09/15/2014 8:23:45 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, if you want to compare national emergencies with an apparent shortage of drone pilots, or whatever they were gibbering about in this stupid article, knock yourself out. If you imagine for one minute that their draft would turn out patriotic citizens then you have not been paying attention. And S. Korea has a nut-job neighbor that has already invaded them once, so their situation is not quite analogous to ours, is it?


28 posted on 09/15/2014 8:24:11 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: Flag_This

We have Southern neighbors invading us, last time I checked.


29 posted on 09/15/2014 8:26:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: rockinqsranch

Did they have the “Bullseye Inn” back then, I think it was called that had their version of a Whopper or Big Mac called a Smuggler?


30 posted on 09/15/2014 8:30:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"We have Southern neighbors invading us, last time I checked."

That is absolutely true and the people who would be running a new draft are the same people who are facilitating the invasion. The draftees would probably be manning welcome stations for our newest democrat voters.

31 posted on 09/15/2014 8:30:15 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: rockinqsranch

That photo is from 1965, so right before your time.


32 posted on 09/15/2014 8:31:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Flag_This

So you’ve given up? Which country are you moving to?


33 posted on 09/15/2014 8:32:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"So you’ve given up? Which country are you moving to?"

I haven't given up anything. I just strongly disagree with you about a draft under this administration and today's circumstances.

34 posted on 09/15/2014 8:35:22 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Bullseye Inn is not something I recollect at all. May have come about after I departed in February 1968. The usual EM clubs, NCO, and Officers clubs, but anything else you wanted was at the PX up in the back. We had the Kimchi Commanche Club at the 55th MP compound just over the tracks to the right as you headed into Uijongbu. The mess at the 55th was the absolute best. Lots of awards year after year. We ate well.


35 posted on 09/15/2014 8:48:50 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: Fai Mao

Please explain your flawed reasoning. How can you equate a volunteer to a mercenary?
I enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1984. I spent 23 years serving this great republic. I sure as hell didn’t do it for the money. Two of my sons enlisted. One in the army and one in the Marine Corps. Again, money had nothing to do with it. You do a great disservice to those of us who have voluntarily given up the best years of our live to protect this country.


36 posted on 09/15/2014 8:52:53 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Draft all of the boys into infantry training first. Clean ‘em up and make men of ‘em. It would also lead to a revival of real conservatism.


37 posted on 09/15/2014 9:02:33 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Pelham

> I think he had a sarcasm tag at the end of his comment.

: )


38 posted on 09/15/2014 10:01:01 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: sean327

I am using the term mercenary to mean a paid professional army not an army of conscripts.

But yes, even mercenaries who are not nationals of the army they fight for are often better troops than conscripts. You see this clearly in battalions like the British Ghurkas or French Foreign Legion. These are units that do not fight for their county but are highly regarded and recognized for bravery good soldiery.

Would anyone enlist if they were not paid, regardless of how patriotic they are? Not under normal circumstances.

Perhaps you are reading a negative connotation into the word mercenary that I am not implying. The best troops, since Roman times have professional soldiers, not conscripts. It simply does not matter where a professional soldier is a national of the country he fights for or not.


39 posted on 09/15/2014 10:32:29 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: rockinqsranch

I love your tagline and I agree with you.


40 posted on 09/15/2014 10:35:33 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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