[Justa]

"The numbers say otherwise. You are simply wrong."

What numbers, the ones you make up in your head? Care to cite them?

ASD is 1-in-68. Do you really think measles, mumps and rubella were ever this prevalent? Their rates were measured by the 10s per 100,000 -far lower than the 1500 per 100,000 rate of ASD. And did these diseases leave their victims brain damaged?

http://www.parents.com/blogs/red-hot-parenting/2014/03/28/health/1-in-68-the-new-data-on-autism-spectrum-disorder/

As for the effects of vaccines, excluding small pox and diphtheria, disease infection rates were reduced through improvements in public sanitation and hygiene rather than introduction of a vaccine.

http://www.healthsentinel.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2662:historic-data-shows-vaccines-not-key-in-declines-in-death-from-disease&catid=5:original&Itemid=24

[RFEngineer]

2.2 per 1000:

http://www.medicinenet.com/measles_rubeola/page9.htm#what_is_the_prognosis_for_measles

[RFEngineer]

Your charts mask important statistics like this:

“a resurgence of measles occurred during 1989–1991, again demonstrating the serious medical burden of the disease. More than 55,000 cases, 123 deaths, and 11,000 hospitalizations were reported [7]. Two major causes of this epidemic were vaccine failure among a small percentage of school-aged children who had received 1 dose of measles vaccine and low measles vaccine coverage among preschool-aged children.”

(from here: http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/189/Supplement_1/S1.long

)

This represents 2.2 deaths per 1000 cases

20% of measles cases required hospitalization in that outbreak.

I presume you do not dispute the highly contagious nature of measles.

What happens when 1,000,000 kids get it because they listened to you and were left unvaccinated? Well you can count on the death rate being much higher than 2.2/1000 - because the hospitals would be overwhelmed, but disregarding that, it would be 22,000 kids dead - preventable.

So you show a profound ignorance of disease, and these statistics mask significant outbreaks that killed children in large numbers in the US.

Why not plot measles vaccine deaths per 100,000 along with this? Because that is a vanishingly small number.

[RFEngineer]

“What numbers, the ones you make up in your head? Care to cite them?”

Seriously, why do you post deliberately misleading charts like this?

You are communicating “Zero deaths from Measles” with this charts, which is simply untrue. The death rate is 2.2 per 1000 cases.

Ignorance is one thing, but willful ignorance with intent to kill children is an entirely different one.

What I don’t understand yet is if you truly WANT to kill children or if it is simply a by-product of your ignorance.

Either way, you have been informed now. If you choose to not vaccinate YOUR kids, that is up to you (and unfortunate for them - unvaccinated illegals are here in great numbers)

If you continue to spread misinformation - such as that in the charts you posted - the only conclusion one can come to is that you put ego in front of preventing death of children - that makes you (and others who join you in your death jihad against vaccines) at best a bad person and very likely evil.

I don’t know how you live with yourselves.