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Robin Williams didn’t die from a disease, he died from his choice
http://themattwalshblog.com ^ | August 12, 2014 | Matt Walsh

Posted on 08/12/2014 1:28:29 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: trisham
Understood...but then they do need to get the help they need...at issue is the battle to maintain that help and they often don't for the long run. Too often the patient believes they can treat mental illness as any other disease...take medicine for a time and when you feel better your cured.... Of course that's seldom the case with mental illness. Often the medication sustains them on a level playing field for a time..and then in some case have to change it along the way for various reasons.....It also matters the type of treatment and as much those giving the treatment.

There are many factors in the equation in treating mental illness....however with Williams his lifestyle throughout his years compounded his problem.....and he knew that.

He once said that his cocaine addiction helped control his manic side...but that was self administered and for that through him into full blown over medicating himself...then the booze added still another level of issues....

Factor in his temper and “mean side” his family members alluded to and you've got a recipe for an unfavorable outcome in time and tide. As mentioned...got to give him credit for making it to his 60's.....many more have thrown in the towel early on.

181 posted on 08/13/2014 2:55:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

“You don’t know what he was......so you can’t speak for God in this matter as you seem to be doing”

Williams was a far left abortion supporting Obama supporter.
He thought it was fine to murder unborn babies and Tom and Dick to “get married”. One of his favorite stand-up routines was cutting down the Catholic Church, calling the pope and all priests pedephiles. George W. Bush was another of his favorites, piling on Bush for daring to be pro-life, and for not wanting women to abort their children.


182 posted on 08/13/2014 2:58:54 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Well you can certainly come down hard as you have on the guy....but we won’t really know the true story of what took place. It’s Hollywood and like all bouts with drugs and booze and all other vices they’ve mastered the cover to make it seem less then it really is.

The toxicology report has yet to be released the last I knew...but it won’t be surprising to me if there’s some drug or alcohol use..IF they really make that public.

My understanding is his recent rehab visitation was to sustain the level of recovery he was one, not because he had relapsed. And that’s not heard of in those circles.

BTW the man your so intent on destroying also entertained those very troops with PTSD.....and gave them an escape from their issues they were facing.


183 posted on 08/13/2014 3:02:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Yes, well said. Another problem is that manic depressives and schizophrenics are very prone to going off of their medications. It happens often, because of some of the side effects of the medication, and because they lose some of the “highs” of their disease.


184 posted on 08/13/2014 3:03:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NKP_Vet
On that note...death bed confessions are not unheard of...you don't know what conversation occurred between Williams and God those last hours....not your call. I think when we get to heaven we'll be surprised who is there..and equally so who is not we thought would be.
185 posted on 08/13/2014 3:06:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: trisham

Yes, I’m aware of that...even if they know well what will come if they do go off...they enjoy the highs....not realizing their highs aren’t seen by them for what they really are...that too is often in their thinking more than reality.

Lots of it is dependent on “feelings”....which is part of the problem as well. Feelings come and go normally in life but some attach themselves to them as the determining factor of how they live life....not real good at overcoming feelings they’d rather not contend with.....so they seek something outside themselves to combat them as an escape.

We all do that...escape from life at times of discomfort...it’s part of dealing with life as it comes....even Jesus went into the mountains to be by himself. HE knew where is strength to cope as a man came from...and would meet with His father there.

Unfortunately without faith..people will escape to unhealthy vices which simply numb the feelings rather than deal with them. And you don’t have to be mentally ill to do that.


186 posted on 08/13/2014 3:12:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

deathbed confession is not the same as repenting of all of your sins.


187 posted on 08/13/2014 3:14:15 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

I’m sure God understood what Williams would or not be talking with Him about....God’s call on Williams..and us all in the end.


188 posted on 08/13/2014 3:17:20 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
We all do that...escape from life at times of discomfort...it’s part of dealing with life as it comes....even Jesus went into the mountains to be by himself. HE knew where is strength to cope as a man came from...and would meet with His father there.

Unfortunately without faith..people will escape to unhealthy vices which simply numb the feelings rather than deal with them. And you don’t have to be mentally ill to do that.

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Sadly, faith isn't always enough. At my sister's memorial service, much was made about her faith, but in the end, it didn't save her.

189 posted on 08/13/2014 3:19:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
We obviously share similar life experiences. It's tough to watch people you care about destroy themselves via substance abuse.
190 posted on 08/13/2014 3:31:07 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: trisham
We obviously share similar life experiences. It's tough to watch people you care about destroy themselves via substance abuse.
191 posted on 08/13/2014 3:31:08 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: trisham

Oh I think she’s safely in his arms....faith rests in the man Jesus who said it was finished...not in our failures nor the degree in which our faith is at any given moment.

If she gave her soul to him prior...then she can’t snatch it back no matter what her state of faith was at her death.


192 posted on 08/13/2014 3:31:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: rdcbn

Yes.


193 posted on 08/13/2014 3:38:17 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: caww

I believe that too.


194 posted on 08/13/2014 3:39:10 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: caww

I didn’t give him an excuse for his behavior . I’m trying to get you to understand what clinical depression is.


195 posted on 08/13/2014 3:39:10 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: NKP_Vet

bump


196 posted on 08/13/2014 3:50:12 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Borax Queen

You are very welcome. It’s been very nice to share with you.


197 posted on 08/13/2014 4:10:06 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: jmacusa

We get it. Williams was clinically depressed.

A depressed man who had the wherewithal to kill himself. The disorder in his brain didn’t kill him. He killed himself.

He was in pain and he himself chose to end his life and give pain to those that loved him.

You say many on this thread are being cruel and judgemental. Are you not judging them as well?

You are casting stones at everyone who doesn’t agree with you. Maybe you should reflect on that.

May God have mercy on Williams’ soul


198 posted on 08/13/2014 6:05:51 PM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: NKP_Vet

I guess you didn’t see his stand up routine about Osama bin Laden meeting his 72 “Virginians” - starting with George Washington..... Kicking his ass?

Robin was a complicated man, people like him usually are.


199 posted on 08/13/2014 6:28:36 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

Back when Kadaffy really was an enemy of the US, he did a funny routine.

“This is a ‘Line of Death’......you cross it, you die.”
*Steps back*
“Ok, you cross THIS line you die.”
*Steps back*
“Ok, you cross THIS line you die.”
*Steps back*
“Ok, you cross THIS line you die.”

“Alright, you come knocking on my door, I’m not coming out...NYAAH!”


200 posted on 08/13/2014 6:30:47 PM PDT by dfwgator
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