Posted on 06/21/2014 1:12:43 PM PDT by Askwhy5times
We have been told Lois Lerner lost 2 years worth of emails due to a crash of her hard drive. We were told the disc had bad sectors and the data could not be recovered.
According to documents provided by the IRS, Lerner was archiving her e-mails on her local hard drive, which developed fatal problems (bad sectors) in the middle of June 2011. The data proved unrecoverable despite heroic efforts on the part of the IT staff.Let's delve into this a little deeper. Exactly what is a hard disc sector?
In computer disk storage, a sector is a subdivision of a track on a magnetic disk or optical disc. Each sector stores a fixed amount of user-accessible data, traditionally 512 bytes for hard drives and 2048 bytes for CD-ROMs and DVD-ROMs. Newer hard drives use 4096-byte (4 KB) sectors, known as the Advanced Format.A sector is about 4 kilobytes. I checked my email and small text only emails were 2 to 5 kilobytes. large emails or ones with attachments ran into the megabytes. So, if learner lost 1 sector, it would be about 1 small email. This is assuming Lerner had a very modern computer. If it was older, it would take more about 8 sectors to store an email. How many emails did Lerner lose?
We don't know exactly how many are missing because a) they are missing and b) the IRS has managed to retrieve 24,000 of the lost emails by searching through the accounts of dozens of other IRS employees who could have been included in those emails.It would appear that Lois Lerner was a prolific email user. If they lost as many as they recovered (24,000), then Lerner's hard drive would have had to have had as many as 48,000 bad sectors to store the lost emails (both lost and recovered) and this is assuming they are small emails without any attachments and all the bad sectors would have to be in the locations her emails were stored. If they were larger file sizes, the number of bad sectors needed to destroy that many emails rises dramatically. Of course all hard drives, even new ones, likely have some bad sectors. Windows stops writing to them after they are identified.
Overall, the IRS has turned over 750,000 pages of documents in the investigation, including 67,000 emails.
When your computer notices a bad sector, it marks that sector as bad and ignores it in the future. The sector will be reallocated, so reads and writes to that sector will go elsewhere. This will show up as “Reallocated Sectors” inhard drive S.M.A.R.T. analysis tools like CrystalDiskInfo. If you had important data in that sector, however, it may be lost — possibly corrupting one or more files.In order for Lerner to have lost two years of email, there would have had to be severe sudden damage to a large section of Lerner's hard drive because files are not stored in a linear manner on disc.
Each partition is either swap space (used to implement virtual memory) or a file system used to hold files. Swap-space partitions are just treated as a linear sequence of blocks. File systems, on the other hand, need a way to map file names to sequences of disk blocks. Because files grow, shrink, and change over time, a file's data blocks will not be a linear sequence but may be scattered all over its partition (from wherever the operating system can find a free block when it needs one). This scattering effect is called fragmentation.If the IRS claimed they lost a few of Lerner's emails due to disc errors, we might believe that, but two years worth doesn't seem very credible. I smell fish.
This issue is a political gift to the Republicans. There are hundreds of laws on the books. Hit the IRS over the head with it’s own rule book. Start sweating the small fish and work your way up the food chain. Hopefully it will lead to the White House and impeachment.
Analysis is futile.
Just like when a kid begs for something, the parent just says “NO, because I said NO!”. They don’t care if anyone believes their excuses or explanations, they were told these emails will not be released “Because Obama said so”.
Because they don’t want to find the emails, don’t you get it?
Good point. Usually if it is a corrupted PST you can make a copy but can’t open (or if it opens it typically freezes up Outlook as it’s trying to parse the database). If it’s a bad drive the file copy fails with a “zero redundancy error” error meaning it can’t read the source file in order to create a copy elsewhere.
The problem I have with all of this is that many folks are falsely visualizing this like a mailbox at the post office. New messages may pass through it but once removed they’re gone. This is (IMO) a false analogy.
If the IRS is operating within the law a copy of EVERY message is retained by the server no matter where the delivery mailbox is defined (such as a personal folder or PST). This means that not only would Lois’s hard drive have to suffer an unrecoverable crash (including recovery at a forensic level) but so would all of the servers along with the tape (or SAN) backup. In other words, a virtual impossibility.
The short answer and the one that Paul Ryan was surprisingly vocal about is that they are lying. To our faces.
Baldfaced lies.
Whatcha gonna do about?
“Why don’t they ask her to take a lie detector test and get it over with...”
Better to just incarcerate her. Until she talks to the Isis Committee, answering questions and cross quesions until we all know the truth. And let her know that she is under oath, no 5th defense, and the email are produced. If that is not done, start next with the IRS Director. Same thing. No Surrender!
I’d rather she spill to the Issa committee than those ISIS dudes ;’)
Two weeks later, she said the drive had been sent to a forensic lab for a final attempt, and a few days after that Ms. Wilburn delivered the fatal news: “The sectors on your hard drive were bad which made your data unrecoverable.” Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/17/lois-lerner-irs-hard-drive-crash-sometimes-stuff-j/#ixzz35JGiCHKs Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter/blockquote>
The Internal Revenue Service is required by federal law to keep records of all agency emails and to print out hard copies of the emails to make sure they get saved in the event of a computer glitch.
Loss of the FAT table does not mean the data cannot be recovered. What a bunch of crap!!
The shriveled up old marxist hag lied.
Lie detector tests are for the”little” people not for the elite
Here’s another reason it smells fishy...
‘Lois Lerner’s Hard Drive “Crashed” Ten Days After House Ways & Means Chairman David Camp Made His First Inquiry About Targeting Conservatives’
As to Ms. Lerner’s behavior, consider that House Ways & Means Chairman Dave Camp first sent a letter asking if the IRS was engaged in targeting in June, 2011. Ms. Lerner denied it. She engineered a plant in an audience at a tax conference in May 2013 to drop the bombshell news about targeting (maybe hoping nobody would notice?). She has subsequently asserted a Fifth Amendment right to silence in front of the only people actually investigating the affair, Congress. Now we learn that her hard drive supposedly defied modernity and suffered total annihilation about 10 days after the Camp letter arrived.
Is there something in those lost emails? The fact that they are “lost” at all probably answers that question.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/349965.php
The number of emails that I’ve heard bandied about is LL had 67,000. Some were recovered. My simpleton, non Common Core math tells me that LL must have been a prodigious emailer. The 67,000 breaks out to 92 emails every day, for 365 days out of the 2 years that were lost. When did she have time to give speeches, have meetings, make phone calls, eat, sleep, and take care of her personal business? I’m thinking her (and Koskinen’s) lies stretches credulity.
Gwjack
It’s probably been stated a number of times in many threads on the Forum, but it bears repeating: Major corporations & large entities such as municipalities utilize Server Farms housing MANY redundant servers to store data… The hard drives connected to these servers are typically set up in what’s known as RAID configurations, where even the simultaneous crash of 25% (or more) drives on a server wouldn’t cause data access to skip a beat. With “Hot Swap” technology having been around for many years, server drives that do go bad can be replaced on the fly, without the end-user noticing anything.
Where I used to work, the Exchange e-mail system had redundant retention & recovery for messages “Deleted” for up to 2 weeks before being purged – this was on top of the regular server disk backups that were made to magtape and hermetically stored off-site. And my firm didn’t approach the size of your average city in terms of #/employees or annual budget…
I’ll bet that the IRS could have retrieved the tax records of Sam Walton or Mitt Romney from that crashed hard drive.
Because they don't know Obama's secret BlackBerry address: chairman@politburo.cpusa.org
One email sent to multiple people I a “list” would explain the high number
This administration is so corrupt, Lenin could take lessons.
Yup, you are correct...but if she spilled to any, we would know...
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