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Here is why Lois Lerner losing 2 years worth of email smells fishy!
Bluegrass Pundit ^ | 06/21/14 | Bluegrass Pundit

Posted on 06/21/2014 1:12:43 PM PDT by Askwhy5times

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To: Askwhy5times

This issue is a political gift to the Republicans. There are hundreds of laws on the books. Hit the IRS over the head with it’s own rule book. Start sweating the small fish and work your way up the food chain. Hopefully it will lead to the White House and impeachment.


21 posted on 06/21/2014 1:53:08 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Askwhy5times

Analysis is futile.

Just like when a kid begs for something, the parent just says “NO, because I said NO!”. They don’t care if anyone believes their excuses or explanations, they were told these emails will not be released “Because Obama said so”.


22 posted on 06/21/2014 1:54:47 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: tflabo

Because they don’t want to find the emails, don’t you get it?


23 posted on 06/21/2014 1:57:52 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Malsua

Good point. Usually if it is a corrupted PST you can make a copy but can’t open (or if it opens it typically freezes up Outlook as it’s trying to parse the database). If it’s a bad drive the file copy fails with a “zero redundancy error” error meaning it can’t read the source file in order to create a copy elsewhere.

The problem I have with all of this is that many folks are falsely visualizing this like a mailbox at the post office. New messages may pass through it but once removed they’re gone. This is (IMO) a false analogy.

If the IRS is operating within the law a copy of EVERY message is retained by the server no matter where the delivery mailbox is defined (such as a personal folder or PST). This means that not only would Lois’s hard drive have to suffer an unrecoverable crash (including recovery at a forensic level) but so would all of the servers along with the tape (or SAN) backup. In other words, a virtual impossibility.

The short answer and the one that Paul Ryan was surprisingly vocal about is that they are lying. To our faces.

Baldfaced lies.

Whatcha gonna do about?


24 posted on 06/21/2014 1:58:10 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: willyd; Eddie01; Askwhy5times

“Why don’t they ask her to take a lie detector test and get it over with...”

Better to just incarcerate her. Until she talks to the Isis Committee, answering questions and cross quesions until we all know the truth. And let her know that she is under oath, no 5th defense, and the email are produced. If that is not done, start next with the IRS Director. Same thing. No Surrender!


25 posted on 06/21/2014 1:58:23 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

I’d rather she spill to the Issa committee than those ISIS dudes ;’)


26 posted on 06/21/2014 2:01:06 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Malsua
They claim they sent it to a forensic lab. I would love to see that report.
Two weeks later, she said the drive had been sent to a forensic lab for a final attempt, and a few days after that Ms. Wilburn delivered the fatal news: “The sectors on your hard drive were bad which made your data unrecoverable.” Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/17/lois-lerner-irs-hard-drive-crash-sometimes-stuff-j/#ixzz35JGiCHKs Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter/blockquote>

27 posted on 06/21/2014 2:04:16 PM PDT by Askwhy5times (http://bluegrasspundit.com/)
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To: Askwhy5times

The Internal Revenue Service is required by federal law to keep records of all agency emails and to print out hard copies of the emails to make sure they get saved in the event of a computer glitch.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/17/irs-was-required-by-law-to-print-out-lois-lerners-emails/#ixzz35JIeKGDG


28 posted on 06/21/2014 2:09:03 PM PDT by Ex-Pat in Mex
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To: Eddie01

Loss of the FAT table does not mean the data cannot be recovered. What a bunch of crap!!


29 posted on 06/21/2014 2:27:05 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: Askwhy5times

The shriveled up old marxist hag lied.


30 posted on 06/21/2014 2:29:38 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: willyd

Lie detector tests are for the”little” people not for the elite


31 posted on 06/21/2014 2:47:05 PM PDT by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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Here’s another reason it smells fishy...

‘Lois Lerner’s Hard Drive “Crashed” Ten Days After House Ways & Means Chairman David Camp Made His First Inquiry About Targeting Conservatives’

As to Ms. Lerner’s behavior, consider that House Ways & Means Chairman Dave Camp first sent a letter asking if the IRS was engaged in targeting in June, 2011. Ms. Lerner denied it. She engineered a plant in an audience at a tax conference in May 2013 to drop the bombshell news about targeting (maybe hoping nobody would notice?). She has subsequently asserted a Fifth Amendment right to silence in front of the only people actually investigating the affair, Congress. Now we learn that her hard drive supposedly defied modernity and suffered total annihilation about 10 days after the Camp letter arrived.

Is there something in those lost emails? The fact that they are “lost” at all probably answers that question.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/349965.php


32 posted on 06/21/2014 2:57:13 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (‘You can avoid reality, but you can’t avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.’)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
RATS = corruption...
33 posted on 06/21/2014 3:15:32 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: Askwhy5times

The number of emails that I’ve heard bandied about is LL had 67,000. Some were recovered. My simpleton, non Common Core math tells me that LL must have been a prodigious emailer. The 67,000 breaks out to 92 emails every day, for 365 days out of the 2 years that were lost. When did she have time to give speeches, have meetings, make phone calls, eat, sleep, and take care of her personal business? I’m thinking her (and Koskinen’s) lies stretches credulity.

Gwjack


34 posted on 06/21/2014 3:32:19 PM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: bigtoona

It’s probably been stated a number of times in many threads on the Forum, but it bears repeating: Major corporations & large entities such as municipalities utilize Server Farms housing MANY redundant servers to store data… The hard drives connected to these servers are typically set up in what’s known as RAID configurations, where even the simultaneous crash of 25% (or more) drives on a server wouldn’t cause data access to skip a beat. With “Hot Swap” technology having been around for many years, server drives that do go bad can be replaced on the fly, without the end-user noticing anything.

Where I used to work, the Exchange e-mail system had redundant retention & recovery for messages “Deleted” for up to 2 weeks before being purged – this was on top of the regular server disk backups that were made to magtape and hermetically stored off-site. And my firm didn’t approach the size of your average city in terms of #/employees or annual budget…


35 posted on 06/21/2014 4:14:21 PM PDT by mikrofon (IT Bump)
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To: Askwhy5times

I’ll bet that the IRS could have retrieved the tax records of Sam Walton or Mitt Romney from that crashed hard drive.


36 posted on 06/21/2014 4:19:19 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: tflabo
Why can’t they do a reverse search? That is the receipients of her e-mails?

Because they don't know Obama's secret BlackBerry address: chairman@politburo.cpusa.org

37 posted on 06/21/2014 4:27:14 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: gwjack

One email sent to multiple people I a “list” would explain the high number


38 posted on 06/21/2014 4:42:25 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Askwhy5times

This administration is so corrupt, Lenin could take lessons.


39 posted on 06/21/2014 5:53:35 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: rockrr

Yup, you are correct...but if she spilled to any, we would know...


40 posted on 06/21/2014 8:22:46 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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