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Does it Matter if Bowe Bergdahl Was a Deserter? (Yep, they're going there already)
National Journal ^ | June 5, 2014 | Brian Resnick, Sarah Mimms and Elahe Izadi

Posted on 06/05/2014 5:27:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There is no shortage of people who will speak out against Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the only American prisoner of the Afghanistan war, just released from five years of capture.

One is Justin Gerleve, Bergdahl's former squad leader, who appeared on CNN on Wednesday. "I believe that he totally deserted—not only his fellow soldiers—but his leadership that wanted the best for him and for our country," Gerleve said. He also implied that Bergdahl's capture led to an increase in targeted attacks against their units. (There are disputed claims over whether several died as a direct result of Bergdahl's actions.) "I can't say for sure the leakage was from Bergdahl, but it's kind of that suspicion that it did happen," Gerleve continued.

But when CNN's Jake Tapper asked him whether Bergdahl should have been rescued, Gerleve responded. "My opinion is yes; no American needs to be left behind."

This exchange seems to encapsulate the media coverage of Bowe Bergdahl—questioning his character while admitting, ultimately, that those details don't matter much.

Broad swaths of Capitol Hill that agree. Even the lawmakers who have expressed the most ardent outrage at the deal the White House cut to secure Bergdahl's release, such as Republican Sen. John McCain, himself a former POW, say it's irrelevant whether he was a deserter or not.

"I don't view that as having any impact on people who are on the top level of Taliban into Qatar, which has a Taliban office," McCain said. "And they are going to be back in Afghanistan within a year, killing Americans, trying to kill Americans."'

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The White House held a classified briefing Wednesday evening on the details of the prisoner exchange. When it ended, Senate Armed Services Committee ranking member James Inhofe echoed this idea that the administration's actions are more important than Bergdahl's military standing. "If Bergdahl had been a Congressional Medal of Honor winner, it would have minimized the atrocity that I feel that was committed by Obama for turning these people loose," he said. (Time also wonders aloud on its latest cover if Bergdahl was worth the price of five Taliban members.)

"There's too much emphasis on Bergdahl. That is not that important," Inhofe said. "What is important is what the president did."

The Bergdahl media story is following a familiar arc. Consider that in the beginning of the Snowden leaks, the media swarmed on all the details of his life—researching his girlfriends, his family, his activity on Internet forums, and so on. As that story evolved, it became clear it wasn't about Snowden as a person. It was a story about the state of global espionage, and a national reckoning of the power of U.S. government's signals intelligence apparatus. A year later, there's still no consensus on the question: Is Snowden a hero or a traitor? Expect a similar path for Bergdahl.

For sure, there are lawmakers who want to know Bergdahl's history and "whether this man was a deserter or not," as Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein puts it. And a number of lawmakers do think it's relevant whether he deserted.

"For the American people, they would be willing to pay a pretty high price if somebody was a combat veteran," Republican Sen. Mark Kirk or Illinois argued. "If a guy was just a deserter they would not be into paying a very high price for getting him back."

The Army has pledged to complete a "comprehensive" review on the circumstances around Bergdahl's case, but the results may not come for some time. And in the meantime, lawmakers concerned about a myriad of other issues not related to Bergdahl don't want to distract from their critiques.

Part of what's at issue is that there is still so much not known about Bergdahl, with reports streaming out about the circumstances surrounding his capture by the Taliban. Basing your criticism around the prisoner swap on Bergdahl's background could end up backfiring. "The policy that [we are] making sure we get left-behind soldiers, prisoners of war—in this case, a captured prisoner—is the first priority,"Democratic Sen. Mark Begich of Alaska said.

Another part of the issue is that there is such little precedent for this scenario—an AWOL soldier-turned POW (reader-historians, feel free to email us when this has happened before). In that vacuum, what we're seeing is a clash of long-held U.S. values that serve more as maxims than iron-clad policy: "We don't negotiate with terrorists" (what the Republicans are saying) versus "Leave no one behind" (what the White House is saying). According to an Army spokesperson speaking to the International Business Times, "there are no set regulations governing when or whether a soldier can be left behind—that it is left to the discretion of the commanding officer." And the U.S. does negotiate with terrorists, just not publicly.

According to a 2005, Congressional Research Service Report, the official U.S. policy regarding alive prisoners of war (from Vietnam, at least) reads as follows: "Should any report prove true [that an American is still being held captive in Vietnam], we will take appropriate action to ensure the return of those involved." Although there is a precedent for charging American POWs after they return home. In 1979, Pfc. Robert R. Garwood returned to the U.S. after 14 years in Vietnam (he was prisoner for at least four of those years). Upon arriving home, he was court-martialed and convicted of collaborating with the enemy. All that considered,the Bergdahl scenario is still unique.

The story of his possible desertion and capture will keep making headlines and will draw attention. But, for the sake of Washington, this story isn't about a solider. It is about Guantanamo, the power of the White House versus Congress, and the drawdown of the Afghanistan war.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bergdahl; obama; snowden
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To: Menehune56

“This is beyond belief. You don’t swap 5 high level enemy commanders for 1 lone deserter when hostilities have not ended.”

You do, if you were planning on letting them go anyway.


21 posted on 06/05/2014 6:06:15 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: RossA

“Showtime signs Bowe Bergdahl to star in Homeland season 4.”

Life imitates art.


22 posted on 06/05/2014 6:07:50 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The reason you try to return a deserter is because you do not want him giving up information to the enemy. And this is especially true if he deserts in enemy territory. Why do you think 6 men died trying to recover these creep ?
23 posted on 06/05/2014 6:07:57 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But when CNN's Jake Tapper asked him whether Bergdahl should have been rescued, Gerleve responded. "My opinion is yes; no American needs to be left behind."

Rescued? Of course. Traded for 5 terrorists? Hell no!

24 posted on 06/05/2014 6:09:37 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: Menehune56

I’m willing to bet that these three National Journal journalists don’t know shit about Vietnam (I was there as a journalist).

We were told that there were at least two American soldiers who were seen fighting with the VC/NVA, one a blond; the other a black man. No documents known to openly exist on this very secret issue.

The blond was a sniper. People thought he might be a Russian soldier because there was one enemy sniper who was deadly against our troops and he was described as a blond, tall white man, possibly using a Soviet sniper rifle whose name I have forgotten).

There were 10 members of the “Peace Committee” in the Hanoi Hilton, i.e. collaborators to various degrees (i.e sympathizers with the No. Vietnamese).

One was a Lt. Col. named Miller. Adm Jim Stockdale wanted him courtmartialed and almost got it. Other POWS talked him out of it.

Another was Bob Chenoweth, who joined Jane Fonda/Tom Hayden in their anti-US tours.

One, named Kavanaugh, committed suicide out of disgust with his actions.

Don’t remember the other 7. However, there was an early POW, George Smith, Special Forces, who did join the communists in the “peace movement” as a speaker and writer. I have photos of him with Fr. James Groppi, an avowed VC supporter (1971 demonstration in DC).

There were some deserters in S. Vietnam but no real stories about them.

Bergdahl gives all the indications of a weak-minded soldier (probably influenced by his wacked out leftist father), who got disillusioned with his mission and left his post, i.e. deserted, thus endangering his fellow soldiers.

Make all the excuses you can about his behavior, but in the end, he still is a deserter or worse.


25 posted on 06/05/2014 6:21:41 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A year later, there’s still no consensus on the question: Is Snowden a hero or a traitor? Expect a similar path for Bergdahl.

The diffrence being we have Bergdahl.
He can be tried and fiound guilty....


26 posted on 06/05/2014 6:33:45 PM PDT by 48th SPS
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes it does,

and that was fast.


27 posted on 06/05/2014 6:34:44 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 48th SPS

“We” don’t have him, Mr. Obama does. He may NEVER surface while Mr. Obama is still in office or if he’s followed by Hillary, Fauxcohontas or Crazy Joe.


28 posted on 06/05/2014 6:36:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He didn’t desert... he defected..

Stamp reject on his ass and send him back to the sand box.


29 posted on 06/05/2014 6:46:33 PM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cableguymn

I wouldn’t want him going back and possibly getting many more men killed.


30 posted on 06/05/2014 6:47:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not so sure he’s got much more to give them he hasn’t already given. That being the case... Drop him off on the mountains somewhere... With a subcutaneous GPS chip... Wait a week or two... And BLAMMO. :-)


31 posted on 06/05/2014 7:02:00 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

hang him for treason?? we need a good treason hanging..


32 posted on 06/05/2014 7:08:17 PM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
RE:”The fact that there's only 20 years separating the Reagan administration from the Obama administration just amazes me”

Some Dems are also using the argument that Reagan did the same thing and Republicans called it patriotism.

33 posted on 06/05/2014 7:34:55 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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