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Not familiar with this source but an Orthodox friend of mine sent me the link so thought I'd post.

There is no doubt truth to this. The disturbing part is the extent to which what is called "world values" are different .......

The questions over who controls which branch of Orthodox, Russia or Ukraine is not so big a deal as Orthodox is generally controlled by the ruling government. The deeper question is who winds up ruling the Ukraine.

1 posted on 05/05/2014 1:07:57 PM PDT by wonkowasright
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To: wonkowasright

If we consider Western Civilization as it is today its moral relativistic, post-Christian form, Eastern Orthodoxy would be more than a small step up.


2 posted on 05/05/2014 1:12:40 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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The real threats are these elitist oligarchs suffering from delusions of godhood.
3 posted on 05/05/2014 1:12:52 PM PDT by nomad
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“World values” probably include pederasty, homosexual proselytization, illicit drugs, etc?
6 posted on 05/05/2014 1:18:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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This is a silly analysis (that of this fellow Bildt).
There is no ideological component to Putins actions.
He and his government are plainly and simply after power, uncomplicated by any higher ideals.
To the extent the Russian media invokes “values” its just propaganda chatter.
Now, it may be that Bildt et al are themselves trying to create propaganda chatter, to rile up the socialist/libertine population of Europe.
To a degree this conflict is one of two amoral groups (Russian and European leadership) with no fixed principles or beliefs, pretending to have them for tactical purposes.

Caught in the middle are the Ukrainians, or most of them, who have a definite preference for self-determination.


9 posted on 05/05/2014 1:25:06 PM PDT by buwaya
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As I noted on the earlier thread on this, Bildt did not say this. I’m amazed at how much credence Freepers give to a story that originated on a Russian “news” site.


10 posted on 05/05/2014 1:26:18 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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-In the words of Mr Bildt, Vladimir Putin demonstrates attachment not to world but to Eastern Orthodox values, which becomes clear from a Twitter post of his [Bildt’s]. ”The new anti-west and anti-decadent line [of conduct] of Putin is based on the deep conservatism of Eastern Orthodox ideas,” Carl Bildt is convinced.-

So, in effect “how dare they challenge our decadence!”


18 posted on 05/05/2014 2:00:51 PM PDT by Viennacon
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If “western values” are what is being pushed down our throats by Obama, I am seriously ambivalent.


20 posted on 05/05/2014 2:28:46 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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The other issue is the Ukrainian Catholic Church, which the Soviets tried to suppress. I don’t think Putin recognizes it either. There were some reports of harassment right after the Russian invasion of Crimea but haven’t heard anything lately. It won’t be good for Ukrainian Catholics if part or all of Ukraine is re-annexed by Russia.


21 posted on 05/05/2014 3:59:10 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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