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To: Old Sarge
If someone’s passing by and all they see is a trashy abandoned-looking place that looks like it’s been picked over, they shrug and move on.

I have considered both Ferfal and Selco in this scenario. Sometimes it is better to just look at a place that says keep moving.

It all depends on the scale of SHTF. If really the number 10, there will be no people passing without being stopped or diverted away.

JMHO. YMMV.

I have to do a post on proximity detectors. These fellows just work. I put them up for the deer problems we are having. They will drive you crazy. With Mr. Beams and wireless cameras you will not have issues with people sneaking up on you.

I am testing with deers and raccoons. Sadly, I am getting a bit of shadenfreude dealing with them. They just work. Long life with batteries. I can sleep at night.

A subject for another day.
28 posted on 03/20/2014 11:44:46 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

If you post that, please ping me - I’d LOOOVE to see how it’s done...


29 posted on 03/21/2014 4:03:41 AM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: PA Engineer
It all depends on the scale of SHTF.

I agree. Like I said, I lived through a major collapse. I was fortunate to have been in Moscow when much of that went down. It's not a "Mad Max" scenario. There were some border wars and of course Chechnya was right out of "The Road Warrior" but those were extreme exceptions with very specific aggravating factors. It wasn't like Mad Max at all. It was more like a constant foraging for basics. You spent all sorts of time that.

So long as you don't live where there are a lot of people EBT cards (when they turn those off in an economic collapse, there will be rioting), you will be able to get along without dollars. Farmers will figure out a way to plant and harvest. Truckers will figure out a way to get the stuff to market. There will be stuff to buy. It's just that not having a regular monetary system makes all of that much, much more complicated.

So, to avoid the Mad Max scenario just don't live anywhere near a EBT population. And I mean nowhere near. Stay way far back because those are the elements in our society that will explode in the event of a financial collapse. Think Rodney King riots on steroids.

I would add that I think the libtards couldn't be more wrong about their strategy of getting everybody on the dole in order to cause a collapse so then the government can move forward with totalitarian centralized powers, a la Cloward-Piven. Based on my experience with the USSR's collapse, where everybody really was directly dependent on the government, when collapse came further centralization was the last thing on people's minds. What the average Soviet citizen (or Eastern Block) country understood very clearly was that if they had a chance to survive it was going to be at the local level. Remember what actually happened: the USSR did not get more centralized; rather, it split nicely along its internal borders. Same with Yugoslavia, although the inter-ethnic tensions really did give us a Mad Max scenario, tragically. But Yugoslavia did split up. Same with Czechoslovakia. Much of the history of the past 25 years was about adjusting those internal boundaries that became international ones, both in the Balkans and across all of Eurasia.

No, in my opinion, the libtards won't get a tightly centralized federal government wielding unchecked powers against the States and local governments. Quite to the contrary. A financial collapse might well mean States telling the Feds to go pi$$ up a rope. We are seeing the beginnings of that now with talk of nullification and Article V convention and so forth, IMHO.

Libtards really are lost in their fantasies. Their ingrained habit of shoehorning reality into their neo-Marxist narrative is their great weakness. That's why I think that a financial collapse would certainly be a big black cloud of misfortune for us but it would also have a nice, shining silvery lining. At the other end of the mess we might just wake up one day in a place completely free of libtards. I think that might just make the whole thing worthwhile.

43 posted on 03/21/2014 9:42:33 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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