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Posted on 03/20/2014 7:03:59 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: grobdriver
CCI has been reliable, other brands not so much. Not just my experience but many others. A lot depends on storage conditions. I have had match grade 7.62 go bad but that was 30 year old stuff. All had excess fouling and two misfire. out of twenty.
41 posted on 03/21/2014 8:30:06 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart
A lot depends on storage conditions

I was concerned about that myself - but we're talking decades in ammo boxes in a Central Texas garage.
Same for good quantities of .223 and .45 stuff put up at the same time

I don't worry about storage conditions so much any more. I've made room inside for my ammo, but it'll probably be good long past when I'm gone - if I don't shoot it up.

42 posted on 03/21/2014 8:34:01 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: PA Engineer
It all depends on the scale of SHTF.

I agree. Like I said, I lived through a major collapse. I was fortunate to have been in Moscow when much of that went down. It's not a "Mad Max" scenario. There were some border wars and of course Chechnya was right out of "The Road Warrior" but those were extreme exceptions with very specific aggravating factors. It wasn't like Mad Max at all. It was more like a constant foraging for basics. You spent all sorts of time that.

So long as you don't live where there are a lot of people EBT cards (when they turn those off in an economic collapse, there will be rioting), you will be able to get along without dollars. Farmers will figure out a way to plant and harvest. Truckers will figure out a way to get the stuff to market. There will be stuff to buy. It's just that not having a regular monetary system makes all of that much, much more complicated.

So, to avoid the Mad Max scenario just don't live anywhere near a EBT population. And I mean nowhere near. Stay way far back because those are the elements in our society that will explode in the event of a financial collapse. Think Rodney King riots on steroids.

I would add that I think the libtards couldn't be more wrong about their strategy of getting everybody on the dole in order to cause a collapse so then the government can move forward with totalitarian centralized powers, a la Cloward-Piven. Based on my experience with the USSR's collapse, where everybody really was directly dependent on the government, when collapse came further centralization was the last thing on people's minds. What the average Soviet citizen (or Eastern Block) country understood very clearly was that if they had a chance to survive it was going to be at the local level. Remember what actually happened: the USSR did not get more centralized; rather, it split nicely along its internal borders. Same with Yugoslavia, although the inter-ethnic tensions really did give us a Mad Max scenario, tragically. But Yugoslavia did split up. Same with Czechoslovakia. Much of the history of the past 25 years was about adjusting those internal boundaries that became international ones, both in the Balkans and across all of Eurasia.

No, in my opinion, the libtards won't get a tightly centralized federal government wielding unchecked powers against the States and local governments. Quite to the contrary. A financial collapse might well mean States telling the Feds to go pi$$ up a rope. We are seeing the beginnings of that now with talk of nullification and Article V convention and so forth, IMHO.

Libtards really are lost in their fantasies. Their ingrained habit of shoehorning reality into their neo-Marxist narrative is their great weakness. That's why I think that a financial collapse would certainly be a big black cloud of misfortune for us but it would also have a nice, shining silvery lining. At the other end of the mess we might just wake up one day in a place completely free of libtards. I think that might just make the whole thing worthwhile.

43 posted on 03/21/2014 9:42:33 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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bttt


44 posted on 03/21/2014 3:05:22 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
In a true SHTF sit-u Spices will be at a premium because a majority of them are imported...

I've been investing in seeds for my favorite spices, as well as some that I don't use but most people do. This year I'm making a big push to expand my seed supply. I have a wide variety, but not much of each one.

If nothing else, seed saving is fun :)
45 posted on 03/22/2014 7:52:19 PM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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